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Old 11-22-2007, 07:27 AM
inferno inferno is offline
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Default Acy river

OTB is 50/9, att steal blinds 40

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everybody folds, otb raises, sb folds and I call with 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] in the BB
*** FLOP *** [2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]]
I c/r and he calls
*** TURN *** [6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]]
I bet he calls
*** RIVER *** [A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]]
I check
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Old 11-22-2007, 09:34 AM
Wolfram Wolfram is offline
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Default Re: Acy river

Fine so far, now call a bet.

Overs with a [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] are big enough part of his range and he will always try to rep the Ace if he has nothing.
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Old 11-22-2007, 10:39 AM
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Default Re: Acy river

Do you call the raise on the river if you bet out???
You certainly don't want to put two bets in on this river so c/c is best.
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Old 11-22-2007, 11:20 AM
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Default Re: Acy river

Betting the river would be horrible.
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Old 11-22-2007, 12:44 PM
Noir_Desir Noir_Desir is offline
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Default Re: Acy river

I don't think betting the river is horrible. Against villains who can read hands c/c turns our hand faceup and gets us valuetowned every time he has it because we can't fold. They won't bluff very often because our check screams c/c. Against a lot of people i like a bet to induce a desperation bluff from missed overcards/flushdraws without the ace. An ATS 40 OTB range has a lot of these.
Given the board and our river bet thinking players might even just call with a mediocre ace because we could have them reverse dominated or flushed.
Of course this is more generally speaking, against a 50/9 guy i c/c too.
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Old 11-22-2007, 01:08 PM
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I don't think betting the river is horrible. Against villains who can read hands c/c turns our hand faceup and gets us valuetowned every time he has it because we can't fold.

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1. I'd much rather be value-towned for 1BB than for 2BB.

2. It is much more likely that a villain will try to bet as a bluff than to raise as a bluff because betting as a bluff offers him a much better price than raising does (6:1 vs 7:2).

3. An ace is raising the river almost always.
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