Beat: Absolute is *actually* rigged (serious) (read me)

[thac]

Apparently this jen&jes guy is a high-stakes ABS player converted to PS (badly)

[adanthar]

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But I agree I think we're going to need to see more than one HH per account to make sure it isn't just some drunk guy with a load of cash. I mean, are these people playing a LOT or what's up?

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there is an account running at 65/50 at HS limit with a 75% W@SD. that account coldcaps preflop from the BB then check/folds the flop on a 522 board when someone flops a full house. over, and over, and over.

oh yeah and the ten high call HU on the turn of the toughest weekly tournament ever by a guy who busted within 5 minutes in the only two other low stakes donkaments he's ever played.

[Chump Change]

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Beat: Mods are FOS when they tell us they can't sticky a topic that isn't locked

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It's not an issue of can't, it's an issue of Reds won't allow it.

[keikiwai]

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is there any evidence other than a few hands? and even if someone CAN see someone elses holecards, isnt it possible that its because of a trojan and not absolute's fault?

i mean its possible hes just retarded/bad... heres a hand my friend saw today on stars where someone called a river shove with 10 high:

PokerStars Game #12067296948: Hold'em No Limit ($3/$6) - 2007/09/15 - 04:16:08 (ET)
Table 'Miriam IV' 6-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: Luckycharm84 ($190.60 in chips)
Seat 2: kjell_morten ($576 in chips)
Seat 3: floes ($600 in chips)
Seat 4: jen&jes ($578.10 in chips)
Seat 5: Raidan909 ($621 in chips)
Seat 6: hook2120 ($690.20 in chips)
kjell_morten: posts small blind $3
floes: posts big blind $6
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Raidan909 [2d Jh]
jen&jes: calls $6
Raidan909: folds
hook2120: calls $6
Luckycharm84: calls $6
kjell_morten: calls $3
floes: checks
*** FLOP *** [8c 4c 4d]
kjell_morten: bets $18
floes: folds
jen&jes: calls $18
hook2120: calls $18
Luckycharm84: folds
*** TURN *** [8c 4c 4d] [3d]
kjell_morten: checks
jen&jes: checks
hook2120: checks
*** RIVER *** [8c 4c 4d 3d] [6d]
kjell_morten: checks
jen&jes: bets $154
hook2120: raises $512.20 to $666.20 and is all-in
kjell_morten: folds
jen&jes: calls $400.10 and is all-in
*** SHOW DOWN ***
hook2120: shows [6s 6h] (a full house, Sixes full of Fours)
jen&jes: mucks hand
hook2120 collected $1189.20 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $1192.20 | Rake $3
Board [8c 4c 4d 3d 6d]
Seat 1: Luckycharm84 (button) folded on the Flop
Seat 2: kjell_morten (small blind) folded on the River
Seat 3: floes (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 4: jen&jes mucked [Tc 9c]
Seat 5: Raidan909 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: hook2120 showed [6s 6h] and won ($1189.20) with a full house, Sixes full of Fours

not saying that nothing is going on... but is there more evidence than just "omg look this guy called with 10 high"?

that said i think it would be wise to stay out of the high stakes games on abs until this is resolved....

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is this an elaborate level, or do you not understand that the cheating is on absolute, and when they make redic calls w/ T high, it's because they WIN the hand?

[goofyballer]

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oh yeah and the ten high call HU on the turn of the toughest weekly tournament ever by a guy who busted within 5 minutes in the only two other low stakes donkaments he's ever played.

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Maybe that's why he busted in 5 minutes! [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

[luckyjimm]

More damning evidence:

ABSOLUTE GAME #7469740355: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($5/$10) - 2006/12/16 - 15:19:51 (ET)
Table 'Peneleos' 6-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 4: Dalmations ($597 in chips)
Seat 5: Lukieplaya ($4614 in chips)
Seat 6: gambler2k4 ($995 in chips)
Lukieplaya: posts small blind $5
gambler2k4: posts big blind $10
__2cb__: sits out
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Lukieplaya [4d As]
Dalmations: folds
Lukieplaya: raises $30 to $40
gambler2k4: raises $100 to $140
Longhorne joins the table at seat #2
Lukieplaya: raises $4474 to $4614 and is all-in
gambler2k4: calls $855 and is all-in
*** FLOP *** [8h 2d 3h]
*** TURN *** [8h 2d 3h] [6d]
*** RIVER *** [8h 2d 3h 6d] [2h]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Lukieplaya: shows [4d As] (a pair of Deuces)
gambler2k4: mucks hand
Lukieplaya collected $1989 from pot

[goofyballer]

Well, Keikiwai, if the dude that won that hand on Stars just now didn't have 66 but, instead, 97o, would you be suspicious?

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i was amazed at how many people are getting leveled big time in this thread...

...til i found out that you seem legitimately concerned with decent evidence.

So unless this is a huuuuge joke, WOW.

[mayday4379]

i think he's saying that crazy calls always happen. if the stars person won the hand with T high, would they be cheating?

I wonder if Jen or Jes made that call...

[schwah]

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is this an elaborate level, or do you not understand that the cheating is on absolute, and when they make redic calls w/ T high, it's because they WIN the hand?

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my point is that people sometimes DO call with 10 high and a very small % of the time they are going to be right. this is why you can't look at one hh and say "omg he can see peoples cards"

but it looks like theres actually a lot more evidence so.. yeah wow.