VH1's "The Pick up Artist"

[RunDownHouse]

Just saw this. Did anyone else wonder if "Mystery" was watching a ton of old Star Trek episodes right before the staged/scripted pieces? He was practically the ghost of Shatner, if, you know, Shatner was dead.

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If it's helping nerds pull roots, then whats the problem?

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This comment was so bizarre just because the only term I've heard that comes close is "that [censored] sucks root." Pull tail, pull trim, pull anything but "root."

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Why must 75% of reality shows copy the Survivor format nowadays?

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On Design Star, I guess they always say, "Your show has been cancelled." Its been what, most of a decade since Survivor first aired? We get it, someone gets eliminated; there's no need to come up with a retarded catch phrase to utter at the end of every show. I'd love it if a host just told someone they lost.

[NajdorfDefense]

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I remember in junior high I used to neg-hit the cute girls all the time. And they ate it up.

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This is a very odd non-sequitur. I don't think any cares about middle-school girls.

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So basically this stuff works on the dumb/insecure girls that are still going to clubs to get picked up well into their 30s.

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Being an interesting person, having interesting and/or funny things to say to women you don't know, and demonstrating higher status works on 100% of women.

There's a reason why really hot models [or any good looking 21-35 yr old] don't date the boring guy, with nothing to say who works as the night janitor at McDonalds.

Just because someone[s] has formalized a set of [obvious] concepts for guys who have trouble talking to unknown, good-looking women in bars/clubs doesn't make it sociopathic, that's ridiculous.

Your assertion that smart women don't like interesting, funny, clever guys who look/are successful and may dress differently than you do is also really, really absurd. Also, calling women 'well into their 30s' as 'insecure girls' is pretty telling.

[NajdorfDefense]

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I dont get all the hate for these PUA types. If it's helping nerds pull roots, then whats the problem?

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Because the hating nerds/disbelievers at 2p2 think that they are smarter, funnier, better educated, maybe wealthier, better-looking, in better physical shape [some], and yet they can't get the time of day from a really hot girl in a club, whereas some of the dorks on the show/PUAs will be getting phone numbers, going out with, and having relationships with good-looking women.

Many guys/2p2ers would rather be 'themselves' [i.e. boring] and alone than realize that they need to be a little more introspective and make changes in who they are if they want to attract somebody worth attracting, or at least obtain some decent social skills.
Some are simply too scared to talk to a woman, others merely jealous of anyone else's success.

[DonkeyKongSr]

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I dont get all the hate for these PUA types. If it's helping nerds pull roots, then whats the problem?

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Because the hating nerds/disbelievers at 2p2 think that they are smarter, funnier, better educated, maybe wealthier, better-looking, in better physical shape [some], and yet they can't get the time of day from a really hot girl in a club, whereas some of the dorks on the show/PUAs will be getting phone numbers, going out with, and having relationships with good-looking women.

Many guys/2p2ers would rather be 'themselves' [i.e. boring] and alone than realize that they need to be a little more introspective and make changes in who they are if they want to attract somebody worth attracting, or at least obtain some decent social skills.
Some are simply too scared to talk to a woman, others merely jealous of anyone else's success.

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I was under the impression that this PUA stuff is about getting pussy, not a relationship. Are you really planning on meeting the love of your life by being a dick to her when you first meet?

"So how did you and Eric meet?"
"He told me to buy him a drink. I was instantly in looooove."

[Alobar]

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I dont get all the hate for these PUA types. If it's helping nerds pull roots, then whats the problem?

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Because the hating nerds/disbelievers at 2p2 think that they are smarter, funnier, better educated, maybe wealthier, better-looking, in better physical shape [some], and yet they can't get the time of day from a really hot girl in a club, whereas some of the dorks on the show/PUAs will be getting phone numbers, going out with, and having relationships with good-looking women.

Many guys/2p2ers would rather be 'themselves' [i.e. boring] and alone than realize that they need to be a little more introspective and make changes in who they are if they want to attract somebody worth attracting, or at least obtain some decent social skills.
Some are simply too scared to talk to a woman, others merely jealous of anyone else's success.

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I was under the impression that this PUA stuff is about getting pussy, not a relationship. Are you really planning on meeting the love of your life by being a dick to her when you first meet?

"So how did you and Eric meet?"
"He told me to buy him a drink. I was instantly in looooove."

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QFT

also, im all for self improvement and what not, but dressing like a retard so you stand out and basically becoming someone you arent, just so you can wet the worm, really doesnt fall into that catagory IMO. Gaining confidence is a good thing, doing it so you can fill the void being insecure has given you by trying to sex other insecure people isnt.

[traz]

People seem to think that actively trying different techniques to attract girls is wrong or something.

PUA stuff can be about any number of things... finding out how to attract girls, how to keep them attracted, how to remain independent throughout a relationship, how to provide the best experience for your girlfriend, how to be a man, how to get what you want out of life, how to be confident etc etc etc etc etc.

It covers a very wide spectrum of ideas, and there's something for everyone. But if people are going to be closed-minded, it's very easy to hate on certain aspects of it. But to reiterate, just about EVERY guy has something to gain by reading good PUA material (not the lame stuff, which is hard to distinguish now).

[DonkeyKongSr]

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People seem to think that actively trying different techniques to attract girls is wrong or something.

PUA stuff can be about any number of things... finding out how to attract girls, how to keep them attracted, how to remain independent throughout a relationship, how to provide the best experience for your girlfriend, how to be a man, how to get what you want out of life, how to be confident etc etc etc etc etc.

It covers a very wide spectrum of ideas, and there's something for everyone. But if people are going to be closed-minded, it's very easy to hate on certain aspects of it. But to reiterate, just about EVERY guy has something to gain by reading good PUA material (not the lame stuff, which is hard to distinguish now).

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There's some good PUA stuff out there and some lame [censored]. Like, I've read a little David DeAngelo stuff and he isn't really trying to make you a whole new person, he's more about giving you confidence and bringing out your best qualities (feel free to shoot me down if I'm wrong, I haven't read everything by him).

Mystery is all about acting like a retard to get some easy chick to [censored] you.

[Droogie]

Guess I should focus more on Mystery than?

[RayPowers]

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There's some good PUA stuff out there and some lame [censored]. Like, I've read a little David DeAngelo stuff and he isn't really trying to make you a whole new person, he's more about giving you confidence and bringing out your best qualities (feel free to shoot me down if I'm wrong, I haven't read everything by him).

Mystery is all about acting like a retard to get some easy chick to [censored] you.

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Pretty accurate. I started with Maniac High's site. ESnow on this site is a huge fan of Ross Jeffries. A ton of this stuff is simple a very different take on basic Psychology...

Ray

[Brian]

I love these threads. Always attracts the smart OOT crowd whom I normally agree with to hate on PUA, then the PUAs come out and put them in their place.

Thanks for the bump, I forgot all about this show.