Carpal Tunnel post: common leaks in the 2+2 game (long)

[Nate tha\\\' Great]

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Why would you check A7 in position on a 558 flop heads-up?

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Eric's post consists of good ideas supported by poor examples.

[bicyclekick]

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Why would you check A7 in position on a 558 flop heads-up?

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Eric's post consists of good ideas supported by poor examples.

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I wish I had more time to elaborate but I agree.

[Justin A]

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Why would you check A7 in position on a 558 flop heads-up?

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Eric's post consists of good ideas supported by poor examples.

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I thought the same thing. I think the Q2 hand is also a poorly constructed sample.

[SteveY]

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Why would you check A7 in position on a 558 flop heads-up?

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Eric's post consists of good ideas supported by poor examples.

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I thought the same thing. I think the Q2 hand is also a poorly constructed sample.

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I don't really see why the Q2 example is bad. I mean, I could see him coming up with a better and more obvious example, but is betting still the better option in eric's example?

[Justin A]

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I don't really see why the Q2 example is bad. I mean, I could see him coming up with a better and more obvious example, but is betting still the better option in eric's example?

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Yes, I think there's too much value to be had in betting and getting paid off by gutshots and middle pairs.

[daryn]

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Why would you check A7 in position on a 558 flop heads-up?

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Eric's post consists of good ideas supported by poor examples.

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i agree with this big time

[ggbman]

Don't be ridiculous, guthots bet 90% of the time and middle pairs bet 99.6% of the time.

[poker1O1]

great post, and I agree with the following logic:
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Here's an example: you are the BB holding 7 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. MP limps, SB limps, you check. Flop: Q83. SB checks, you bet!

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But I usually like to have an overcard to the flop when attempting this

[NLSoldier]

I agree the examples could have been better, but imo they are good enough to get the idea across.

[tessarji]

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Yes, I think there's too much value to be had in betting and getting paid off by gutshots and middle pairs.

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Yes, but this requires the other people in the pot to:

1. Have these hands
2. Decide to call with them

And given that you are the BB, this is not terribly likely.

Eric is suggesting that inducing bluffs from aggressive opponents is more pure profit than trying to lure those same opponents into making calls with insufficient pot odds. For many opponents this is certainly true.