What percentage of online players win in the long run?

[CopTHIS]

I've played 200k hands now since I started, and against 9,989 different players. 41,52% of them are up, based on hands I have tracked. This is close to meaningless I guess, but got me thinking. I reckon it's maybe 35%-ish that can expect to win long term?

[bdiddy12]

According to sharkscope, 1/3 of SNG players are winners.

[river me please]

Talking long term I think this # is to high. I would put it at no more then 15-20% and I have heard as low as 9-11%. A lot of those winners you are tracking could be over a dozen or 2 hands.

[Kala1928]

50% of cash game players are losing players in SNGs.
99,9% of SNG players are losing cash game players.

[J-Mac]

7%

[CopTHIS]

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Talking long term I think this # is to high. I would put it at no more then 15-20% and I have heard as low as 9-11%. A lot of those winners you are tracking could be over a dozen or 2 hands.

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Someone did mentiom 10% a while back (quoting from a newspaper I think) but I just can't believe that. Maybe it is under 20% though.

[Georgia Avenue]

What the hell is this----&gt;&gt; 53<font color="red">,</font>56% ???

It's called a decimal POINT not a decimal COMMA ya' commies!

Anyho, in the long run only .019% of American players will win money online. Less for Eurosmegmas. Sorry.

[RikaKazak]

stop with the gay comma people

and my guess is 9% (pulled it out of thin air [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

[Greenfield]

What's wrong with Europeans? You were all European like 4 generations ago.

[bottomset]

I'd say 8-10% are +, maybe 3-4% up a fair amount excluding bonus/rb(most winners are still barely above breakeven)

with bonus rb, 13-15% or so would be my guess