TPTK multiway

[Profish2285]

Villain runs at 21/20/6.5 What does everyone do here

Full Tilt Poker, $0.25/$0.50 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LeggoPoker Hand History Converter

BB: $19
Hero (UTG): $55
MP: $20
CO: $63.90
BTN: $49.70
SB: $57

MP posts $0.50
Pre-Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (UTG)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $2.25</font>, MP folds, CO calls $2.25, BTN calls $2.25, SB calls $2, BB folds

Flop: ($10) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $7.75</font>, <font color="red">CO raises to $22</font>, 2 folds, Hero....

[icheckraiseu]

I would fold.

I mean, what is this looks like? "Hm, lets see...oh i got 66/33, hey, he raises. I call. I put him on AK. Hey, he hit his K. Now he is gonna to pay me off."

And he raise with 3 ppl to act after him. Looks like a monster for me.
Meh.

[Profish2285]

I dont think its THAT simple seeing as how he is definitely pretty aggro. Why cant this be a weaker king or draw?

[icheckraiseu]

Just my opinion. I dont really like to play for full stacks with TPTK.

[LOwrestling2001]

well let's see here, assuming the player is somewhat competent (by his stats), we can say that he has Axs here, 33, or 66, we're 62/38 dog against his range, if you call this raise, you are pretty much committed, as you will have $25 left or so, and the pot will be $54, you pretty much have to get it in on any non-club turn. This is a shove or fold, i'm leaning towards a fold because we are either crushed by a set or flipping against a flush draw and our hand isn't going to improve really. btw, i also don't see CO doing this with complete air, that's a huge raise that pretty much commits him.

oh here are stove numbers:


14,850 games 0.005 secs 2,970,000 games/sec

Board: Kc 3c 6s
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 38.020% 38.02% 00.00% 5646 0.00 { AdKd }
Hand 1: 61.980% 61.98% 00.00% 9204 0.00 { 66, 33, AcJc, AcTc, Ac9c, Ac8c, Ac7c, Ac6c, Ac5c, Ac4c, Ac3c, Ac2c }

[Profish2285]

I think you have to put KQ in there and possibly KJ. If villain has a weaker king he probably wouldnt flat on the flop due to it being drawy and multiway.

[Shoot59]

If he he has a set he may just call and try to keep other player in...def put KQ, KJ, and even a tricky AK and AA in the stove.

[Profish2285]

Is this really that easy of a fold here? I figured against a villain who is fairly aggro this could be a weaker hand but then again its multiway so I really had no idea. This is a range I just came up with for villain. I figured anything stronger than AJ he is definitely 3 betting, any comments on my range are appreciated as well.

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28,710 games 0.054 secs 531,666 games/sec

Board: 6c 3c Kh
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 54.514% 54.35% 00.17% 15603 48.00 { AdKd }
Hand 1: 45.486% 45.32% 00.17% 13011 48.00 { 66, 33, AcJc, AcTc, Ac9c, As9s, Ac8c, Ac7c, Ac5c, Ac4c, Ac2c, KhQh, KsQs, KhJh, KsJs, 6d3d, 6h3h, 54s, KcQd, KcQh, KcQs, KdQh, KdQs, KhQs, KcJd, KcJh, KcJs, KdJh, KdJs, KhJs }


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[EMc]

easy peasy shove. Pick up your skirt, grab your balls, and lets make something happen [/boiler room reference]

If im your villain here and think you are a tag im gonna raise here a lot, esp with draws and other hands.

Villain is super aggro, this is to be expected. You have a big hand.

[infinity235]

Shove. The pot is $10 preflop. Villain is very aggressive and could be doing this with weaker kings, flush draws, and so on. I commit and shove.