The Official NBA Regular Season 07-08 Thread

[ClassicBob]

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Ugh, why can't Dallas ever drive the ball against this team?

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I gotta say, I LOVE seeing Devin out of control and getting called for charges. I like him a lot, but karma's a bitch you flopping douchebag.

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If Devin Harris is a flopping douchebag, what's Steve Nash?

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Steve Nash does not flop.



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lol

[ClarkNasty]

Not me.

[ClarkNasty]

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Stat wise Nash and Kidd aren't that far apart. They support the Nash better on offense, Kidd better on defense notion.

Nash's assist and turnover ratio were 39.3/12.8 respectively last season versus Kidd's 37.6/10.9. Nash offensive/defensive ratings were 124/110 respectively versus Kidd's 111/103.

So unsurprisingly Kidd is the better defender statwise while Nash is the better offensive player.

I am kinda surprised assist ratio was so close.
Obviously Nash is a much better shooter.

On a team with plenty of scorers I'd pick Kidd over Nash though. Eg. the Celtics [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

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Right now Nash makes any team a team with plenty of high % scorers.

[Droogie]

Which is why I would take Kidd over him only at teams like the Celtics who have plenty of firepower regardless of who is the primary distributor.

I am not sure what point you are trying to make [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

[ClarkNasty]

My point is that Nash's ability to make people better >>>>>>>> Kidds, at least recently.

The Phoenix record and player stats with and without Nash the last few years are astounding. When he's on the court, its like noone EVER takes a contested shot. It's surreal.

[Droogie]

And my point is that when you have offensive studs you just need someone to pass the ball well, not make many turnovers and help out with defense (incl. rebounding/steals), ie. Kidd > Nash in those, and in only in those, rare instances.

So I completely agree with you unless you are saying that you would take Nash on all teams, even a team with 3 offensive studs like the Celtics. I agree to disagree with you if that's the case [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

[ClarkNasty]

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And my point is that when you have offensive studs you just need someone to pass the ball well, not make many turnovers and help out with defense (incl. rebounding/steals), ie. Kidd > Nash in those, and in only in those, rare instances.

So I completely agree with you unless you are saying that you would take Nash on all teams, even a team with 3 offensive studs like the Celtics. I agree to disagree with you if that's the case [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

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My point is that he makes those studs even better. Marion's barely an NBA offensive player without Nash on the court. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

Celtics with Nash >> Celtics with Kidd

[Droogie]

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Marion's barely an NBA offensive player without Nash on the court. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

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I really hope I should interpret that [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] as a "I do know this is total and utter nonsense".

[tdarko]

bobbo,

I wasn't saying that Barnes didn't have value, I was saying that Barnes really gets under my skin. He takes an elbow on defense so obv COMPLETELY unintentional and the off player ends up on the ground b/c it was a fast break situation--Barnes acts like it is a street game or something and stands over him all bowed up. I really wish someone would would get up off the ground in that situation and knock his scrawny ass the [censored] out and make him realize that is act is tired.

Good ball player though.

[Fonkey123]

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devin harris is basically a common whore. Always on his back.

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Ben Wallace didn't show up all last season either.

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yeah that's not true at all. He wasn't '04 ben wallace, but he was a pretty valuable player nonetheless.

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