Was this a stupid call??

[bird30]

Should I have made this call .... would have folded for sure if only 1 or 2 people all in but with 3 people all in before me, the pot as big as it was, and a decent draw to the nut straight thought it might be worth it, just wondering what others thought...Still not sure if it was a stupid call or not??


PokerStars Game #5588577351: Omaha Pot Limit ($0.50/$1.00) - 2006/07/17 -
12:10:57 (ET)
Table 'Algedi' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
Seat 1: bird30 ($90.50 in chips)
Seat 2: BIG roast ($163.70 in chips)
Seat 3: JeffSeeFast ($99 in chips)
Seat 4: Le Marquis ($92.35 in chips)
Seat 5: gastonne ($41.80 in chips)
Seat 6: Insnow ($96.10 in chips)
Seat 7: Rokas ($127.25 in chips)
Seat 8: staffanMolle ($98.65 in chips)
Seat 9: catmak ($42.45 in chips)
staffanMolle: posts small blind $0.50
catmak: posts big blind $1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to bird30 [Td 8s Qd 9s]
bird30: calls $1
BIG roast: folds
JeffSeeFast: calls $1
Le Marquis: folds
gastonne: calls $1
Insnow: calls $1
Rokas: calls $1
staffanMolle: calls $0.50
catmak: checks
*** FLOP *** [3h 6c 7d]
staffanMolle: bets $6.65
catmak: calls $6.65
bird30: calls $6.65
JeffSeeFast: folds
gastonne: raises $33.25 to $39.90
Insnow: raises $55.20 to $95.10 and is all-in
Rokas: folds
staffanMolle: raises $2.55 to $97.65 and is all-in
catmak: folds
bird30: calls $82.85 and is all-in
gastonne: calls $0.90 and is all-in
*** TURN *** [3h 6c 7d] [2c]
*** RIVER *** [3h 6c 7d 2c] [Ac]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
staffanMolle: shows [Jh Jd 5d 4d] (a straight, Three to Seven)
Insnow: shows [5s Js 4h Ah] (a straight, Three to Seven)
staffanMolle collected $5.60 from side pot-2
Insnow collected $5.60 from side pot-2
bird30: mucks hand
bird30 is sitting out
staffanMolle collected $73.05 from side pot-1
Insnow collected $73.05 from side pot-1
gastonne: mucks hand
staffanMolle collected $86.95 from main pot
Insnow collected $86.90 from main pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $334.15 Main pot $173.85. Side pot-1 $146.10. Side pot-2 $11.20. |
Rake $3
Board [3h 6c 7d 2c Ac]
Seat 1: bird30 mucked [Td 8s Qd 9s]
Seat 2: BIG roast folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: JeffSeeFast folded on the Flop
Seat 4: Le Marquis folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: gastonne mucked [8h 7c 2d 6d]
Seat 6: Insnow showed [5s Js 4h Ah] and won ($165.55) with a straight, Three to
Seven
Seat 7: Rokas (button) folded on the Flop
Seat 8: staffanMolle (small blind) showed [Jh Jd 5d 4d] and won ($165.60) with a
straight, Three to Seven
Seat 9: catmak (big blind) folded on the Flop

[Chimichonga]

Umm, well, at best you have 7 outs, considering that at least one of the two people raising is likely to have the flopped straight given the action.

I am sure they thank you for changing their EV neutral actions into +EV moves...

(Read another way... yes, it was a stupid call.)

[EnderIII]

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Umm, well, at best you have 7 outs, considering that at least one of the two people raising is likely to have the flopped straight given the action.

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Am i missing something? Even if both people have flopped straights to get rid of 2 of the fives for outs, you still have the remaining two fives, and since it is rainbow any 8,9 or 10 for another 9 outs, so 11 outs with two cards to come plus a backdoor flush draw makes this look pretty good.

Probably close to a coinflip in a 3 way pot, i like it, but i'm new at this.

[Chimichonga]

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Umm, well, at best you have 7 outs, considering that at least one of the two people raising is likely to have the flopped straight given the action.

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Am i missing something? Even if both people have flopped straights to get rid of 2 of the fives for outs, you still have the remaining two fives, and since it is rainbow any 8,9 or 10 for another 9 outs, so 11 outs with two cards to come plus a backdoor flush draw makes this look pretty good.

Probably close to a coinflip in a 3 way pot, i like it, but i'm new at this.

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My bad, misread the hand.... [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img] Back to hibernation for me.

[Ribbo]

Seems a fair shove.

[stickdude]

Looks pretty standard to me, given your equity after the flop...

http://twodimes.net/h/?z=1836084
pokenum -o td 8s qd 9s - 8h 7c 2d 6d - 5s js 4h ah - jh jd 5d 4d -- 3h 6c 7d
Omaha Hi: 528 enumerated boards containing 6c 7d 3h
cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
9s 8s Qd Td 217 41.10 303 57.39 8 1.52 0.419
7c 6d 2d 8h 122 23.11 398 75.38 8 1.52 0.239
Js 5s Ah 4h 15 2.84 357 67.61 156 29.55 0.176
Jd 5d 4d Jh 10 1.89 362 68.56 156 29.55 0.167