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Old 10-09-2007, 10:43 PM
JMa JMa is offline
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Default too thin vb? 10/20..

Villain is a bad lag, ghost_crab for those of you who play on party. We have some history and he probably sees me as a pretty straight forward tagish player.

do you ppl valuebet the river here?

Party Poker, $10/$20 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 3 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

BB: $2,553
BTN: $911.10
Hero (SB): $2,070

Pre-Flop: 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (SB)
BTN folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $70</font>, BB calls $50

Flop: ($140) 6 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $90</font>, <font color="red">BB raises to $220</font>, Hero calls $130

Turn: ($580) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, BB checks

River: ($580) Q (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $450</font>
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Old 10-09-2007, 10:53 PM
MDMA MDMA is offline
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Default Re: too thin vb? 10/20..

Woha, hell noes.
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Old 10-09-2007, 10:55 PM
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Default Re: too thin vb? 10/20..

i'd rather bet the turn than the river.
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Old 10-09-2007, 11:01 PM
RickOSU RickOSU is offline
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Default Re: too thin vb? 10/20..

what the hell are you trying to get value out of? 87?
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Old 10-09-2007, 11:24 PM
HelloandGoodby90 HelloandGoodby90 is offline
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Default Re: too thin vb? 10/20..

You likely have villian beat. That said, villian is likely only calling turn or river with hands that have you beat, or a draw that just got there. (w/ history some villians might call you down lighter than that with a 6 or 3, but I don't think this is the situation here.)

I like checking it down. If he bets river, I call.
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Old 10-09-2007, 11:27 PM
MatthewRyan MatthewRyan is offline
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Default Re: too thin vb? 10/20..

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i'd rather bet the turn than the river.

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would u bet/call tho?
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Old 10-10-2007, 12:18 AM
bigt439 bigt439 is offline
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Default Re: too thin vb? 10/20..

ghost crab is terrible so i know why you want to bet... but i still think he folds too many of the hands youre trying to get a call out of to make this a good idea.
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Old 10-10-2007, 12:36 AM
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Default Re: too thin vb? 10/20..

i don't think this is terrible. not a big fan, but i dont think it's tooo bad.
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Old 10-10-2007, 12:38 AM
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Default Re: too thin vb? 10/20..

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ghost crab is terrible so i know why you want to bet... but i still think he folds too many of the hands youre trying to get a call out of to make this a good idea.

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Isnt he bad in the way that you would want to check everything on the river though? and call.
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Old 10-10-2007, 12:41 AM
trambopoline trambopoline is offline
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Default Re: too thin vb? 10/20..

I agree. I think as long as you're mixing up your play enough then you can still get value from some hands at this river. You got to assume any hand he has that has decent showdown value will be checked behind at river so I think theres more value in betting than check/calling
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