Interesting hand vs good reg 5/10

ahnuld · #1 10-08-2007, 10:20 AM

Villan is a pretty good 10/20 reg on party. He runs around 25/20. My notes say he once bet full pot for value with TP when alot of draws missed and my hand was either a missed draw or a mid pair. I think I called in that spot because his bet sizing didnt make sense and I thought it was a bluff or a monster, which is what he was trying to rep I think. Anyways when this hand goes down there isnt much history for today.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $10 BB (5 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

MP ($999)
Hero ($1250)
SB ($1165)
BB ($1123.50)
UTG ($732.50)

Preflop: Hero is Button with T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
1 fold, MP raises to $35, Hero raises to $115, SB calls $110, 1 fold, MP folds.

Flop: ($275) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks.

Turn: ($275) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB bets $211, Hero calls $211.

River: ($697) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB bets $611

Comments on earlier streets appreciated.

Hattifnatt · #2 10-08-2007, 10:23 AM

I think river is a fold and dont mind the rest.

Praetor · #3 10-08-2007, 10:25 AM

i would fold the turn, you beat nothing

aditya · #4 10-08-2007, 10:27 AM

Honestly, no offense intended, I don't think this hand is all that interesting at all. I think river is pretty clearly an easy fold, esp with read given. Without read too, I really think this is a pretty easy fold in this situation.

DonkBluffer · #5 10-08-2007, 10:28 AM

I think you have to fold too. Does he call 3-bets OOP often?

ahnuld · #6 10-08-2007, 10:29 AM

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Honestly, no offense intended, I don't think this hand is all that interesting at all. I think river is pretty clearly an easy fold, esp with read given. Without read too, I really think this is a pretty easy fold in this situation.

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It involves a coldcall preflop, two thin vbing players, and some potential draws on the turn and a few levels of thinknig. Should I post some overpair on fd board hands instead?

Bikini Wax · #7 10-08-2007, 10:32 AM

folding the turn is certainly not bad, but checking the flop might of induced a bluff (depending on how you play 3bet pots) - and the Jh hits a lot of his semi bluffing range... I'm clueless it really depends how curious I am that day I guess

Unknown Soldier · #8 10-08-2007, 10:34 AM

his cc range has to be pretty damn tight, although that depends on mp a bit, how does he play?

Bikini Wax · #9 10-08-2007, 10:34 AM

fwiw I do think this is an interesting hand, sucks to say but I'll bring up the hated if you call turn you should call river yada yada

aditya · #10 10-08-2007, 10:35 AM

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Honestly, no offense intended, I don't think this hand is all that interesting at all. I think river is pretty clearly an easy fold, esp with read given. Without read too, I really think this is a pretty easy fold in this situation.

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It involves a coldcall preflop, two thin vbing players, and some potential draws on the turn and a few levels of thinknig. Should I post some overpair on fd board hands instead?

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I mean I can see where you're coming from, but with the note given in the OP, his coldcall (which represents a lot of strength, and you hadn't stated otherwise readwise), this hand is sorta open and shut.

You said he is able to value bet thin, I really don't think this applies in this situation. He honestly isn't gonna be value betting 10-9 or K10 or just 10-x in general.

So yeah, I'll stay out of the discussion if I'm ruining your thread or w/e. Sorry I guess.