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Old 10-08-2007, 06:08 AM
jfish jfish is offline
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this is the second time i have rred him in a fairly short span so he might be getting antsy. hes a 23/17 fairly aggro tag. bet/call?


Full Tilt Poker, $10/$20 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players
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IamZEN (SB): $1,039
Patreee (BB): $1,189.20
StoneEdge (UTG): $2,938
Hero (CO): $4,220.40
mtrain88 (BTN): $2,137

Pre-Flop: A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (CO)
<font color="red">StoneEdge raises to $70</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $240</font>, 3 folds, StoneEdge calls $170

Flop: ($510) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
StoneEdge checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $340</font>, StoneEdge calls $340

Turn: ($1,190) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
StoneEdge checks
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Old 10-08-2007, 06:25 AM
Kilay Kilay is offline
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Kind of depends on your aggro level is he considers going for the c/r here... On the other side, if you check here you're probably not going to get a lot of free showdowns... I think that I would make a 800-900$ bet here just to get a feel

Edit: Made fast post during class but wasn't finished yet, I still think I'd made about 1/2-2/3 pot bet to get a feel and protect your hand a bit and probably fold to a c/r because I can't see many hands you can beat taking that line
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Old 10-08-2007, 07:22 AM
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def bet call imo. let him think he is semibluffing with c/r a pair and high spade when in fact your snap calling.
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Old 10-08-2007, 08:22 AM
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yeah I bet for protection/value and call a shove
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Old 10-08-2007, 09:16 AM
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i'd prolly check. i'd also bet like 400 on the flop, my bet sizing is usually small but i'd be betting more on something this draw heavy.
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Old 10-08-2007, 09:32 AM
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def bet call imo. let him think he is semibluffing with c/r a pair and high spade when in fact your snap calling.

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Well, I must admit I can also see a valid b/c here but I can't see you snap calling any c/r here. I mean, since he is aggro he might as well bet out with the made hand for value although that also depends on his read on you because he might think you might indeed make a protective/value bet with AK here and go for c/r or be capable for making that bluff if he thinks you're likely to throw it away although that might not be likely enough on this board...

The thing is, why do you say you're snap calling here, I mean I don't think you're way ahead of his c/r range although I think both a call/fold are valid options and it's pretty marginal...
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Old 10-08-2007, 09:43 AM
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bet more on the flop
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Old 10-08-2007, 11:20 AM
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yeah I bet for protection/value and call a shove

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if all the money gets in here youre probably [censored].
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Old 10-08-2007, 11:37 AM
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ya w/ 100bb id prob bet/fold turn, or if i didnt really feel comfortable w/ that id just check turn, call/bet river depending on action.

u have any idea how loose hes calling oop or how hed play something marginal like random fd or oesd on flop?
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Old 10-08-2007, 11:52 AM
king_of_drafts king_of_drafts is offline
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Flop bet is fine, I'd bet 850 or so here, I think he will take one more off with any pair + spade.

and I call shove though I wouldn't love it
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