nl100: AK with TPTK on flop in RR pot

Frawa · #1 10-08-2007, 04:49 PM

villain was quite passive at this time like 20/5 , but only a few hands till this hand came up...

Poker Stars, $0.50/$1 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

MP: $117.70
Hero (CO): $100
BTN: $207.40
SB: $100
BB: $104.10
UTG: $148.50

Pre-Flop: A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (CO)
2 folds, Hero raises to $4, BTN folds, SB calls $3.50, BB raises to $12, Hero calls $8, SB calls $8

Flop: ($36) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 Players)
SB checks, BB bets $30, hero??

well i guess PF is debateable if i should 4bet/shove or fold(which is pretty meh i guess)

as played i guess i have to shove here right?
but i do extreme [censored] against his range - i guess the only hand i beat is QQ , which is very unlikely imo

so , whats my play here?

Kilay · #2 10-08-2007, 04:53 PM

As played I think this is always a fold...

Cue-Ball 66 · #3 10-08-2007, 05:14 PM

Yah I fold, SB being in there makes a bluff/QQ far less likely

SonOfWestwood · #4 10-08-2007, 05:15 PM

I think pre-flop is fine. You have position, so there's not as much of a need to 4-bet/shove pre-flop.

On the flop, I'd call and re-evaluate on the turn.

adMIT defeat · #5 10-08-2007, 05:23 PM

I think calling $30 on the flop is a huge mistake. Either push or fold, leaning towards fold.

mathemagician54 · #6 10-08-2007, 05:39 PM

IME such a small rr from BB means huge hand.

But if you just call pre, SB gets good odds to call with just about anything that he'd call your original raise with, and then you have bad position WRT agressor (BB) throughout the hand.

Teja500 · #7 10-08-2007, 05:45 PM

When u play AK vs a reraiser what kind of flop are u looking for? QJT? Calling preflop and then fold when a K flops cant be right. So dont play the hand vs that passiv villian or stack of when you hit in reraised pot.

el_grande · #8 10-08-2007, 06:02 PM

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When u play AK vs a reraiser what kind of flop are u looking for? QJT?

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better flops than this one:

an A instead of the K
lower card instead of the J
coordinated rags (fold equity)

I would fold here.

you have to fold or go to the mat

If villain really is 20/5, then all you can hope for with that board is QQ or AK. I'd say it's unlikely he'd bet as much as $30 with an overcard out there so that makes me skeptical of QQ.