NL200 - 55 ip flopped OESD - help on all streets plz

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Without getting into the minutia of raising pf versus not raising pf, what could I have done differently here? Is there any argument for checking behind on that turn? Bet a little smaller and fold to the shove? As played can we fold to the shove? Thanks guys.

Full Tilt Poker, $1/$2 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LeggoPoker Hand History Converter

SB: $203.15
BB: $235.85
UTG: $452.55
MP: $332.15
CO: $373.75
Hero (BTN): $338

Pre-Flop: 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BTN)
2 folds, <font color="red">CO raises to $7</font>, Hero calls $7, 2 folds

Flop: ($17) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">CO bets $14</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $62</font>, CO calls $48

Turn: ($141) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
CO checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $115</font>, <font color="red">CO raises to $304.75 and is All-In</font>, Hero calls $154 and is All-In

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Villain is 22/20/4.5 over 128 hands.

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Srsly, not one person has posted a response? Is it because I'm a n00b and only have 9 posts?

[scorer]

raising the flop here is horrible

[holdme]

i usually call flop. and check turn

[KinkyKid]

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raising the flop here is horrible

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Your opinion doesn't help much when there is no reasoning behind it. His AF means he's probably cbetting a lot of flops with his whiffed overs. I don't see why we're not raising this flop. Are we waiting for the inevitable overcard and turn bet? Is it because we're 150 bb deep? I'm raising this flop to protect my hand, and because I'm going to be raising his cbets a fair amount. Turn I play the same. Ok, rip my reasoning apart.

[tubasteve]

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raising the flop here is horrible

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so untrue

[ofishstix]

once you raise the flop, which im indifferent about, i would def be betting this turn. and def calling his shove. there are so few hands he can have that beat you. nice hand imo

[Strongline]

Thanks for the insight to those that offered. If I'm interpreting correctly it seems that pot control is the main issue in this pot. In retrospect I'm satisfied with my flop raise (though maybe it needn't be quite so large). I feel like checking behind that turn was probably optimal and truthfully it was my gut reaction during the hand. Villain and I had been involved in a few raised pots previously and in my mind an 8 and/or 3 made up a very small portion of his range. With his flop call I had narrowed his range to something like 99-TT and was betting the turn for value (or so I thought).

I've been reading 2+2 for a while, but this is the first hand I've gotten around to posting for myself. I appreciate the objectivity.

[MichaelBolton777]

what does the turn bet accomplish here? obv it protects your hand and charges if he has a 9 or flush draw. anyone like a check behind on turn? i guess turn bet is good if he is calling with overpairs?