JJ OOP, ACK

[djshawk]

I think I'd bet/fold the turn. I'd hate to see a AKQ on the river.

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I think I'd bet/fold the turn. I'd hate to see a AKQ on the river.

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Doing that turns our hand into a bluff.. If he hits when he 2 barelled on the AKQ.. so be it. We're going to be somewhat unsure when he calls and if he raises, it sucks.

I'm calling river as well. Worse Tens are enough of his range that you can call.

[djshawk]

That sounds a bit contradictory. If worse tens are in his range then we aren't turning our hand into a bluff because we get value from them? Or is this wrong?

By just calling down we get value towned by sets, QQ+. By betting we get raised by sets, QQ+ and can fold. If he calls then I like a b/f river unless you think he can bluff raise worse.

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That sounds a bit contradictory. If worse tens are in his range then we aren't turning our hand into a bluff because we get value from them? Or is this wrong?

By just calling down we get value towned by sets, QQ+. By betting we get raised by sets, QQ+ and can fold. If he calls then I like a b/f river unless you think he can bluff raise worse.

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By betting the turn, you might maximize your profit against his Ts yes - but poker is against a range of hands [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Why do you keep wanting to donk bet into him? Just let him keep betting and call down. I think by the river, he'll have worse tens enough to make the call.

[thac]

Against a dude with this high of an AF, c/c 3 streets seems fine, c/r turn seems okay but it kinda turns our hand into a bluff and if he shoves we're in a spot where we're against the top of his range and we like hardly ever get him to flatcall us.

I definitely don't fold here if I c/c twice.

[tubasteve]

he seems aggro enough to bet 3 streets with AT, so i call

[TwoToGo-Grave]

I am surprised that you'd fold the river. If you are to fold the river, raise the flop are turn and see where you stand. As played, calling the river sounds very standard.

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Why do you keep wanting to donk bet into him? Just let him keep betting and call down. I think by the river, he'll have worse tens enough to make the call.

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I guess because I'd check behind AK most turns looking to hit on the river, but bet when I had QQ+, AT. Given his AF I can see he's firing turn + river with more than me. As OP played I'd definitely call the river.

[Chaos_ult]

I'm rarely getting to showdown like this, but call as played.