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Old 11-08-2007, 08:04 PM
CrAcK_N_CoKe CrAcK_N_CoKe is offline
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Default 250bb deep AK facing check-raise on flop

I was confused in this hand , because when i call a bet or a raise or whatever normally i have a plan and i have to admit that now i have no plan at all semi-deep against a player i dont know.
And river is obv a fold.Whatever what he had i hate his line a lot.Bluff , AA , A6 , 66 , any 6 , 22 or 77 played this hand terribly but whatever its not my problem i guess...i was happy when he checked the turn cause now my plan was clearly to call a pot-size bet on the river but life reserved us a lot of surprises.

PokerStars Game #13121651368: Hold'em No Limit ($0.05/$0.10) - 2007/11/08 - 18:53:28 (ET)
Table 'Erminia III' 6-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: Just4Tom ($8.20 in chips)
Seat 2: Lefty2Guns88 ($5.50 in chips)
Seat 3: Kreesha ($30.45 in chips)
Seat 4: jutwined ($9.80 in chips)
Seat 5: CrAcK_N_CoKe ($26.05 in chips)
Seat 6: Blowing Big ($12.65 in chips)
Just4Tom: posts small blind $0.05
Lefty2Guns88: posts big blind $0.10
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to CrAcK_N_CoKe [Kh Ac]
Kreesha: calls $0.10
jutwined: folds
CrAcK_N_CoKe: raises $0.20 to $0.30
Blowing Big: calls $0.30
Just4Tom: folds
Lefty2Guns88: folds
Kreesha: calls $0.20
*** FLOP *** [As 6c 6d]
Kreesha: checks
CrAcK_N_CoKe: bets $0.70
Blowing Big: folds
Kreesha: raises $1.50 to $2.20
CrAcK_N_CoKe: calls $1.50
*** TURN *** [As 6c 6d] [2d]
Kreesha: checks
CrAcK_N_CoKe: checks
*** RIVER *** [As 6c 6d 2d] [7h]
Kreesha: bets $27.95 and is all-in
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Old 11-08-2007, 08:12 PM
mihs mihs is offline
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Default Re: 250bb deep AK facing check-raise on flop

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And river is obv a fold.

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so knowing that... what exactly is the point of this post?
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Old 11-08-2007, 08:15 PM
Gelin1 Gelin1 is offline
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Default Re: 250bb deep AK facing check-raise on flop

Your pfr is really small. I'd make it $0.5, 4bb+1/limper
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Old 11-08-2007, 08:21 PM
CrAcK_N_CoKe CrAcK_N_CoKe is offline
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Default Re: 250bb deep AK facing check-raise on flop

Come on , i want the opinions of all about the plan in general facing this kind of check-raise against an unknown , and what do you do if he bet the turn big or whatever.

RIVER IS FOLD OBV , yeh cause he just bet 32$ in a 7$ pot.Normally players dont do this.

The real question is what the [censored] do you do if he keep betting the turn big...cause on the turn you now need a river plan...

The way this hand was played after the flop was not standard but when i made my decision on the flop i had no idea about that.
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Old 11-08-2007, 08:23 PM
Profish2285 Profish2285 is offline
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Default Re: 250bb deep AK facing check-raise on flop

You go into WA/WB mode and c/c down assuming he bets the turn again. As played obviously fold though, it looks like he was hoping to c/r you on the turn for some reason and is now trying to get value out of his missed opportunity.
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Old 11-08-2007, 08:23 PM
CrAcK_N_CoKe CrAcK_N_CoKe is offline
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Default Re: 250bb deep AK facing check-raise on flop

normally i would do it , i was multi-tabling and i guess you know the time...sometimes you just click too fast lol...but when the flop came i sit out on some tables to focus.
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Old 11-08-2007, 08:27 PM
CrAcK_N_CoKe CrAcK_N_CoKe is offline
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Default Re: 250bb deep AK facing check-raise on flop

profish: yeah exactly , and a standard NL10 player would probably pay him here...When im on monkey tilt and i play super LAG sometimes i get some cards and then those NL10 are in BIG BIG trouble.
But GOD DAMNIT mannn...after that hand this guy was shoving like A7 on a AKQ28 board for like 14$ against a guy who covered him and im pretty sure he had a random ace in my hand but thats not important i didnt knew that in this hand lolll.

Im playing NL10 these days cause i tilted a lot recently and im trying to control that and what better place to practice tilt-control than NL10 lol
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Old 11-08-2007, 08:39 PM
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Default Re: 250bb deep AK facing check-raise on flop

can't be results oriented. against an unknown you have to fold the river. played it correctly here. and as stated before c/c standard bets if he bet like a normal person would.
and about my previous post i was just saying there was no question in your original post. didn't mean for it to sound harsh
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Old 11-08-2007, 08:54 PM
Babalatexi Babalatexi is offline
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Default Re: 250bb deep AK facing check-raise on flop

Hmm, his flop raise could either just be a bluff as the board is paired and he knows it's hard for you to hit, or he has a monster (although at this level, people usually slowplay flopped trips and definitely boats). On the turn you can either bet to charge pp's and worse A's and can easily fold to a raise or check and call any reasonable sized bet on the river, hoping villain's bluffing/betting worse A's. I see merits in both ways, depends on the villain how you want to play this.

As stated, raise more pf and the river is obviously a fold as played.
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