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Old 07-25-2007, 09:55 AM
piebear piebear is offline
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Default Re: What do you put the villain on?

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you actually gave him correct odds to draw to a flush.

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he gave him like 2.8:1? how do you figure?

As you've already heard, raise more PF, bet the flop. Pot the turn, if he calls that shove the river.
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Old 07-25-2007, 11:26 AM
WantToLearn WantToLearn is offline
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Default Re: What do you put the villain on?

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you actually gave him correct odds to draw to a flush.

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he gave him like 2.8:1? how do you figure?


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Itīs like 36,5:8 or so given that Hero had no intention to give up without further investment should a flush card fall. So u can kindof add Heroīs river bet as Villain has those $$ as implied odds. Villain, however, didnīt know that for sure (could have guessed though), but Hero knew and Hero doesnīt want Villain to play correctly or close to it.

Villainīs turn call was 17% of the pot as it was after Heroīs river bet went in, while Villain makes the flush (if he has a draw) about 19%. Again, Hero knew (or should have known) he wouldnīt get out for free should Villain make a flush. Maybe it would be different if Heroīs intention was to check the river behind should villain check. But what then if Villain bets?
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Old 07-25-2007, 11:35 AM
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Default Re: What do you put the villain on?

Eh, checking the flop isn't the worst thing in the world. It is very dry, but any card popping up might kill action or create some draws.

Bet more on turn. If you think he has TT, why didn't you get it all in on the flop? River is a clear b/f unless you have reads. Also, with only 2 streets of action, it is very difficult ot say what he may or may not have. If you know he's a good player, then this is an easy fold.
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Old 07-25-2007, 07:38 AM
oakrdrzfan oakrdrzfan is offline
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Default Re: What do you put the villain on?

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the sick thing is i put him on TT.
if he had AXc, would probably bet the flop. so i count that out. he would never play a deuce in this situation cuz the min raise he did. i really feel like he had neither KQc or TT.
any thoughts?

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I think his min rs pf is more likely to be A2 than TT. I can also see him checking the flop with this hand. The way the hand played out, it just fell in his lap if he did have A2 clubs.
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