Two Plus Two Newer Archives  

Go Back   Two Plus Two Newer Archives > PL/NL Texas Hold'em > Medium Stakes
FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 11-17-2007, 03:38 PM
cheet cheet is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Orange County, CA
Posts: 231
Default 3/6 Taking an interesting line with TPTK

Villan is ericberen (Full Tilt) who I have at 21.1/17.7/3.46. I'm playing a standard TAG game right now, maybe a little nitty, but definitely 3-betting a lot. Here's the hand:

Full Tilt Poker, $3/$6 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter

Hero (BB): $600
UTG: $621
MP: $681.90
CO: $600
BTN: $615.45
SB: $594.95

Pre-Flop: A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BB)
UTG folds, <font color="red">MP raises to $21</font>, 3 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $66</font>, MP calls $45

Flop: ($135) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $100</font>, MP calls $100

Turn: ($335) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, MP checks

River: ($335) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $100</font>, <font color="red">MP raises to $515.90 and is All-In</font>

My logic behind this small bet was I wanted to make it look like a blocking bet that gives him room to bluff. I figured he was probably calling the flop with a lot of hands and might be turning them into a bluff fearing he may be behind. How does that sound?
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 11-17-2007, 03:40 PM
luckybacon luckybacon is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 1,430
Default Re: 3/6 Taking an interesting line with TPTK

i assume you double barrel this ace on the turn so you probably should bet it here.
Yeah if you do this ur snap calling a raise, i usually just fire turn tho
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 11-17-2007, 03:47 PM
cbboy cbboy is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Ottawa, ON
Posts: 2,234
Default Re: 3/6 Taking an interesting line with TPTK

3-bet more PF. that size is pretty bad imo. I bet the turn here.

What are you attempting to do on the river here with that weak bet?

Edit- what do you do on a blank turn? say like offsuit 3?
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 11-17-2007, 03:54 PM
willw9 willw9 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: where momma keeps the peanut butter
Posts: 4,235
Default Re: 3/6 Taking an interesting line with TPTK

[ QUOTE ]
i assume you double barrel this ace on the turn so you probably should bet it here.
Yeah if you do this ur snap calling a raise, i usually just fire turn tho

[/ QUOTE ]

I really don't like double barreling this turn with our whole range; Ax represents a very small portion of our 3bet range and he can exploit us accordingly. I don't think the A scares villain as much as you'd think, if he's relatively solid. If I am DB'ing the turn with air, I'm definetely shoving the river.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 11-17-2007, 03:55 PM
cheet cheet is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Orange County, CA
Posts: 231
Default Re: 3/6 Taking an interesting line with TPTK

[ QUOTE ]
3-bet more PF. that size is pretty bad imo. I bet the turn here.

What are you attempting to do on the river here with that weak bet?

Edit- what do you do on a blank turn? say like offsuit 3?

[/ QUOTE ]

Given the flow of the game I was definitely firing a second barrel. I bet small on the river because I figured he would think he was behind now so I was trying to give him room to bluff.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 11-17-2007, 04:06 PM
cbboy cbboy is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Ottawa, ON
Posts: 2,234
Default Re: 3/6 Taking an interesting line with TPTK

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
3-bet more PF. that size is pretty bad imo. I bet the turn here.

What are you attempting to do on the river here with that weak bet?

Edit- what do you do on a blank turn? say like offsuit 3?

[/ QUOTE ]

Given the flow of the game I was definitely firing a second barrel. I bet small on the river because I figured he would think he was behind now so I was trying to give him room to bluff.

[/ QUOTE ]

Then you got what you want and have to call...
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 11-17-2007, 04:09 PM
cbboy cbboy is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Ottawa, ON
Posts: 2,234
Default Re: 3/6 Taking an interesting line with TPTK

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
i assume you double barrel this ace on the turn so you probably should bet it here.
Yeah if you do this ur snap calling a raise, i usually just fire turn tho

[/ QUOTE ]

I really don't like double barreling this turn with our whole range; Ax represents a very small portion of our 3bet range and he can exploit us accordingly. I don't think the A scares villain as much as you'd think, if he's relatively solid. If I am DB'ing the turn with air, I'm definetely shoving the river.

[/ QUOTE ]

So if it doesn't scare him as much as we think, shouldn't we be betting since he will call us semi-lightly? And if you are double barelling this turn card with air, why not bet it when we hit it? We have to balance our ranges man...
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 11-17-2007, 04:18 PM
cheet cheet is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Orange County, CA
Posts: 231
Default Re: 3/6 Taking an interesting line with TPTK

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
3-bet more PF. that size is pretty bad imo. I bet the turn here.

What are you attempting to do on the river here with that weak bet?

Edit- what do you do on a blank turn? say like offsuit 3?

[/ QUOTE ]

Given the flow of the game I was definitely firing a second barrel. I bet small on the river because I figured he would think he was behind now so I was trying to give him room to bluff.

[/ QUOTE ]

Then you got what you want and have to call...

[/ QUOTE ]

Ya, I obv called and he had 666....I was just wondering if the line I chose was good.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 11-17-2007, 04:19 PM
cheet cheet is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Orange County, CA
Posts: 231
Default Re: 3/6 Taking an interesting line with TPTK

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
i assume you double barrel this ace on the turn so you probably should bet it here.
Yeah if you do this ur snap calling a raise, i usually just fire turn tho

[/ QUOTE ]

I really don't like double barreling this turn with our whole range; Ax represents a very small portion of our 3bet range and he can exploit us accordingly. I don't think the A scares villain as much as you'd think, if he's relatively solid. If I am DB'ing the turn with air, I'm definetely shoving the river.

[/ QUOTE ]

So if it doesn't scare him as much as we think, shouldn't we be betting since he will call us semi-lightly? And if you are double barelling this turn card with air, why not bet it when we hit it? We have to balance our ranges man...

[/ QUOTE ]Very true
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 11-17-2007, 04:58 PM
willw9 willw9 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: where momma keeps the peanut butter
Posts: 4,235
Default Re: 3/6 Taking an interesting line with TPTK

I like the DB as played, but not so much with air.
Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 10:22 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.