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Old 06-14-2006, 12:49 PM
Snarf Snarf is offline
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Default (Kinda LC) Dazed and Confused...UTG opens with a 14x

This is more for comical value than actual poker help...but for those playing the lower limits...it actually will come up from time to time.

a) Any guesses as to what this guy has?
b) Whats my play?
c) What if I had 99 or 1010 or AQs or etc...


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UTG (t1480)
UTG+1 (t2100)
MP1 (t1180)
MP2 (t1320)
MP3 (t1500)
CO (t1490)
Button (t1470)
SB (t1460)
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Preflop: Hero is in BB with J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
<font color="red">UTG raises to t280</font>, <font color="gray">UTG+1 folds</font>, <font color="gray">MP1 folds</font>, <font color="gray">MP2 folds</font>, <font color="gray">MP3 folds</font>, <font color="gray">CO folds</font>, <font color="gray">Button folds</font>, <font color="gray">SB folds</font>
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Old 06-14-2006, 12:54 PM
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Default Re: (Kinda LC) Dazed and Confused...UTG opens with a 14x

buyin? sometimes this is 55.

i fold 99% of the time (1% tilt!)
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Old 06-14-2006, 12:56 PM
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Default Re: (Kinda LC) Dazed and Confused...UTG opens with a 14x

I'm going to guess AK, or AQ. Maybe JJ(although unlikely given your hand).Maybe even TT. I wouldn't think it's a hand that can beat yours, if it was he would want a little bit of action, and raise that much preflop. I guess it depends on how he plays. But my first guess is AK.
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Old 06-14-2006, 12:58 PM
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Default Re: (Kinda LC) Dazed and Confused...UTG opens with a 14x

If this were a 6.50, I would fold. I think there are better spots to get my money in. If I were to call, I would expect to see Ax 60%, 22-1010 20%, and complete air 20%.
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Old 06-14-2006, 12:59 PM
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Default Re: (Kinda LC) Dazed and Confused...UTG opens with a 14x

Fold. Let villain self destruct if he does not have at least AKs, AA, KK, QQ with that kind of a raise from UTG.
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Old 06-14-2006, 01:03 PM
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Default Re: (Kinda LC) Dazed and Confused...UTG opens with a 14x

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If this were a 6.50, I would fold. I think there are better spots to get my money in. If I were to call, I would expect to see Ax 60%, 22-1010 20%, and complete air 20%.

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So you think there's a better spot than when you're guaranteed to have at least a 2:1 advantage? Pray tell...when would that be?
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Old 06-14-2006, 01:10 PM
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Default Re: (Kinda LC) Dazed and Confused...UTG opens with a 14x

Yeah - people are giving this low buy-in donk farrr too much credit on his range.

I have a pre=defined range in my head for crap similar to this at this level - but the 14x (rather than a mere 6-10x) really threw me off

He showed (by choice or by showdown) and I was surprised, honestly.

I'll let others discuss some more before I say the types of hands this is usually
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Old 06-14-2006, 01:15 PM
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Default Re: (Kinda LC) Dazed and Confused...UTG opens with a 14x

Well, he didn't open push so we know it's not 77
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Old 06-14-2006, 01:33 PM
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Default Re: (Kinda LC) Dazed and Confused...UTG opens with a 14x

I do that with AA and KK at lower buyins and expect 2 callers more than half of the time.
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Old 06-14-2006, 01:43 PM
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Default Re: (Kinda LC) Dazed and Confused...UTG opens with a 14x

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I do that with AA and KK at lower buyins and expect 2 callers more than half of the time.

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Sometimes if I call/push I'll run into guys like you.

The rest of the time - its guys like....not you....
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