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Old 05-23-2007, 09:33 AM
Dr_Mabuse101 Dr_Mabuse101 is offline
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Default Nl 50: JJ - I hate these spots

First Hand on the table.
Prima Poker skin
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.25/$0.50
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $67.85
UTG+1: $25.68
CO: $49.00
Button: $30.89
SB: $60.40
Hero: $49.50

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is BB with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
UTG calls, 2 folds, Button calls, SB calls, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $3</font>, UTG calls, 2 folds.

Flop: Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($7.5, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $6.8</font>, UTG calls.

Turn: 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($21.1, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $10.8</font>, <font color="#cc0000">UTG raises all-in $57.55</font>, Hero folds.
My question is the Turn. I always suck at these spots. Check or bet ?
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Old 05-23-2007, 09:52 AM
C4LL4W4Y C4LL4W4Y is offline
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Default Re: Nl 50: JJ - I hate these spots

First hand w/o reads, I c/f turn.
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Old 05-23-2007, 11:38 AM
robert jordan robert jordan is offline
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Default Re: Nl 50: JJ - I hate these spots

UTG call looks weird

Either way, i think the turn is a mandatory bet. Cause now you know you're not good.. c/c is bad and c/r is obv very bad.
c/f seems too weak/tight.. but i've been spewin a little lately so i'd like to hear what other pple think
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Old 05-23-2007, 11:45 AM
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Default Re: Nl 50: JJ - I hate these spots

I usually c/f turn but I'm not happy about the whole line. Unfortunately, I don't know of any better one.
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Old 05-23-2007, 12:05 PM
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Default Re: Nl 50: JJ - I hate these spots

c/f turn.
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Old 05-23-2007, 12:06 PM
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Default Re: Nl 50: JJ - I hate these spots

Nasty spot.

I make it $3.25 pf.

And just to say, on turn $10 into a $20 pot offers villains perfect odds to draw for flush, and of course it gives villain the option of pushing with, say, {FD + overcard + FE + whatever else}. He could even push with air if he's a nutcase and senses hero's uncertainty (although that would be a pretty advanced play for 50NL IMO).
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Old 05-23-2007, 12:52 PM
robert jordan robert jordan is offline
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Nasty spot.

I make it $3.25 pf.

And just to say, on turn $10 into a $20 pot offers villains perfect odds to draw for flush, and of course it gives villain the option of pushing with, say, {FD + overcard + FE + whatever else}. He could even push with air if he's a nutcase and senses hero's uncertainty

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oh yea, meant to say something about that. gotta be 14+


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(although that would be a pretty advanced play for 50NL IMO).

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So thats my problem, eh? I'm just thinking too much
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Old 05-23-2007, 01:03 PM
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Default Re: Nl 50: JJ - I hate these spots

Ugh, don't like the turn bet at all, it looks like what it is. A marginal hand who is scared by a flush. I would raise with any 2 there pretty much.
C/f turn looks like best line to me.
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Old 05-23-2007, 01:34 PM
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Default Re: Nl 50: JJ - I hate these spots

Against what opponents do you 2nd barrel this turn?
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Old 05-23-2007, 03:19 PM
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Default Re: Nl 50: JJ - I hate these spots

I think this is a bad spot to second barrel. Most of villains range is calling that turn imo
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