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Old 08-15-2007, 08:04 AM
Mat Cauthon Mat Cauthon is offline
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Default Re: NL200 How to play QQ overpair

Yeah, if I didn't have a good read on my opponent Iwould stack off here every time.
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Old 08-15-2007, 08:29 AM
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Default Re: NL200 How to play QQ overpair

If we planned to stack off, do we think bet/calling is better than C/rall in?
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Old 08-15-2007, 08:34 AM
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Default Re: NL200 How to play QQ overpair

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If we planned to stack off, do we think bet/calling is better than C/rall in?

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yep, cause giving a free card on this board would be pretty bad
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Old 08-15-2007, 08:36 AM
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Default Re: NL200 How to play QQ overpair

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If we planned to stack off, do we think bet/calling is better than C/rall in?

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yep, cause giving a free card on this board would be pretty bad

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Yeah for sure, however do you think 3bet pots will often get check down on the flop?

IME normally someone bets like 80-90% of the time. Thoughts?

However im wondering also if betting will induce bluff/weaker pushes than check-raising will at c/r is pretty strong play?
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Old 08-15-2007, 08:39 AM
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Default Re: NL200 How to play QQ overpair

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If we planned to stack off, do we think bet/calling is better than C/rall in?

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yep, cause giving a free card on this board would be pretty bad

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Yeah for sure, however do you think 3bet pots will often get check down on the flop?

IME normally someone bets like 80-90% of the time. Thoughts?

However im wondering also if betting will induce bluff/weaker pushes than check-raising will at c/r is pretty strong play?

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well if villain is good he'll take his free card w/ weak draws that he may also bluff-push if we c-bet. i think what you're saying is that if we bet he will shove a lot of mediocre draw type hands that he will fold if he bets and we c/r, and if so i agree w/ you and that's basically why we should bet/call.
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Old 08-15-2007, 08:41 AM
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Default Re: NL200 How to play QQ overpair

Spots like this are tough but from looking through my database these are one of my biggest leaks and i usualy get the money in to find either KK/AA a set or 2 pair far to much of the time to make getting the money in profitable.

My line these days is bet the flop, then possibly call raise depending on size, bet turn and give up if villian is still interested. If he is i am pretty certain I am burning money. Lets face it you can only really hope to see JJ here and in most cases that is not going to happen.
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Old 08-15-2007, 08:48 AM
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Default Re: NL200 How to play QQ overpair

Spot on
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Old 08-15-2007, 08:50 AM
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Default Re: NL200 How to play QQ overpair

looks like we have some controversy in this thread

as far as the people who are saying 'you only beat JJ' thats so wrong, he can have a lot of draws here, or even just AK,
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Old 08-15-2007, 08:52 AM
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Default Re: NL200 How to play QQ overpair

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Spot on

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wtf thats not spot on at all its [censored] awful. you want to bet two streets in a RR pot and then fold?

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100BBs deep?????????????????????????????????????????????? ?????????????????????????????

also wtf at 'he can only have JJ that we beat".
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Old 08-15-2007, 08:53 AM
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Default Re: NL200 How to play QQ overpair

b/c
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