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Old 08-19-2007, 01:34 AM
cardsfan04 cardsfan04 is offline
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Default JJ gets 5 way action

This is early in level 2. My VP$IP was 0 until the hand immediately before this when my JJ doubled through MP1's AT on a T-high flop.

PF, I wanted to raise to protect, but also give myself the opportunity to iso shove if MP1 limp raised me. He had 395 behind, so I raised 180 (210 total). Should I even be considering this when making my raise? Do you raise this at all.

Flop, I really didn't like seeing 4 callers or the overcard that flopped. Should I be check/folding this flop? Is that too weak/tight? I led out to see where I was at. When I was smoothe called by the first player, a set seemed pretty likely. If not, I was still probably beat, so check/folding the turn was pretty obvious.

Do you play this any differently? Do you use the same thinking as me?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t30 (9 handed) internettexasholdem.com

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

CO (t7790)
Button (t5390)
SB (t2690)
Hero (t6045)
UTG (t3300)
UTG+1 (t3650)
MP1 (t425)
MP2 (t2480)
MP3 (t3020)

Preflop: Hero is BB with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls t30, MP1 calls t30, MP2 calls t30, MP3 calls t30, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls t30, SB completes, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t210</font>, UTG+1 calls t180, MP1 folds, MP2 calls t180, MP3 calls t180, Button folds, SB calls t180.

Flop: (t1110) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t530</font>, UTG+1 calls t530, MP2 folds, MP3 folds, SB folds.

Turn: (t2170) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets t900</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: t3070
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Old 08-19-2007, 02:22 AM
Bond18 Bond18 is offline
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Default Re: JJ gets 5 way action

This all looks pretty good, though i'm tempted to say just c/f flop vs 4 other players and hands like KQ/QJ/AQ/QT are all over peoples limp+call ranges. Yea i think just c/f flop.
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Old 08-19-2007, 02:35 AM
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Default Re: JJ gets 5 way action

I wouldn't bet AK on that flop 5 way, and I wouldn't bet JJ either.
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Old 08-19-2007, 02:45 AM
Cornell Fiji Cornell Fiji is offline
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Default Re: JJ gets 5 way action

Your rationale for your pf raise size (so that you can reshove over shorties limp-shove) is very important and I think that it is something that a lot of good players neglect to consider.

As played I agree with c/f on the flop. Don't feel entitled to the pot just because you have JJ. You are not going to bluff with the best hand in a 5 way pot enough to make it +ev
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Old 08-19-2007, 02:48 AM
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Default Re: JJ gets 5 way action

Def c/f flop.
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