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Re: Stars $50 - KK reraise vs terrible board
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As ClubChamp noted, you've only got 7 bucks in. [/ QUOTE ]but then again that's ridiculous thinking. Think that the pot has x amount of $$$ and you want it and how to go about getting it or if you can get it. I think this is a pretty [censored] up spot where it could go either way with a read. The fact that this also looks like he was isolating limpers from the button and called a reraise from a blind makes me think he doesn't have a reasonable range of hands. His range could be something like this against typical people at this level... 249,480 games 0.047 secs 5,308,085 games/sec Board: Tc Js Qc Dead: equity win tie pots won pots tied Hand 0: 48.521% 43.69% 04.83% 108990 12060.00 { KK } Hand 1: 51.479% 46.65% 04.83% 116370 12060.00 { TT+, AQs+, KQs, AQo+, KQo } even putting his range tighter this is a b/c 213,840 games 0.016 secs 13,365,000 games/sec Board: Tc Js Qc Dead: equity win tie pots won pots tied Hand 0: 43.963% 40.93% 03.03% 87528 6483.00 { KK } Hand 1: 56.037% 53.01% 03.03% 113346 6483.00 { TT+, AQs+, AQo+ } |
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Re: Stars $50 - KK reraise vs terrible board
Gimme a break, Chargers. Only a donk felts AQ here.
Board: Jc Tc Qd Dead: equity win tie pots won pots tied Hand 0: 26.666% 23.58% 03.09% 35715 4676.00 { KK } Hand 1: 73.334% 70.25% 03.09% 106403 4676.00 { AA, QQ-TT, AKs, AcQc, KQs, AKo } This range is pretty loose IMO. You played the hand fine OP. |
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Re: Stars $50 - KK reraise vs terrible board
If you bet $12 on the flop and he shoves you need 27.77% equity to call. So he needs AQ or worse 1.1% of the time to b/c. Adding in if he'll call KQo then it's an easy call because KQo felts this flop.
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Re: Stars $50 - KK reraise vs terrible board
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If you bet $12 on the flop and he shoves you need 27.77% equity to call. So he needs AQ or worse 1.1% of the time to b/c. Adding in if he'll call KQo then it's an easy call because KQo felts this flop. [/ QUOTE ] I understand we'll have pot odds, but why do we want to commit as a big dog? FE doesn't justify it. We're betting $37 to win $15 and he's shoving all but a few hands in his range, (AQ, 99, possibly AA but he prob four-bets all-in pre). Btw, I think it's nonstandard to put KQ offsuit in an unknown's range after they call a reraise. |
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Re: Stars $50 - KK reraise vs terrible board
I get your math, but the question is how much FE do i have here? I'm getting $43 in as a 3-1 dog, but is this a bet that i want to take here? I can just check/fold and avoid this bet entirely. I think it depends on how likely i feel he's in there with garbage. If i think there's a good chance he's in with 88 or AJ or some crap, then i bet/call.
But against an unknown, since it's close, I don't think a CF is horrible is it? |
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Re: Stars $50 - KK reraise vs terrible board
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I get your math, but the question is how much FE do i have here? I'm getting $43 in as a 3-1 dog, but is this a bet that i want to take here? I can just check/fold and avoid this bet entirely. I think it depends on how likely i feel he's in there with garbage. If i think there's a good chance he's in with 88 or AJ or some crap, then i bet/call. [/ QUOTE ] $36 total would be going in postflop only $24 or so as a 3/1 dog(which is probably the low end) where you will get 3/1 on a call so its fine the first $12 has different EV, and likely at these stakes is immediately +EV, if you get folds >45% of the time its +EV in a vaccuum(any2cards actually) nl50 players play bad, and typically its by calling too much, so a lot of small pairs, suited connector hands can call RRs and just give up, or make a bad call with a 1pair hand where you have a lot of ev |
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Re: Stars $50 - KK reraise vs terrible board
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$36 total would be going in postflop only $24 or so as a 3/1 dog(which is probably the low end) where you will get 3/1 on a call so its fine the first $12 has different EV, and likely at these stakes is immediately +EV, if you get folds >45% of the time its +EV in a vaccuum(any2cards actually) [/ QUOTE ]Thanks Mr. set, I was about to post the same thing. |
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Re: Stars $50 - KK reraise vs terrible board
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Gimme a break, Chargers. Only a donk felts AQ here. Board: Jc Tc Qd Dead: equity win tie pots won pots tied Hand 0: 26.666% 23.58% 03.09% 35715 4676.00 { KK } Hand 1: 73.334% 70.25% 03.09% 106403 4676.00 { AA, QQ-TT, AKs, AcQc, KQs, AKo } This range is pretty loose IMO. You played the hand fine OP. [/ QUOTE ] lol its nl50 players aren't exactly good that range is tight as hell also if that is his felt range, you are likely +EV bet/calling as he's folding the flop a bunch then and you breakeven on the shove call |
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Re: Stars $50 - KK reraise vs terrible board
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Gimme a break, Chargers. Only a donk felts AQ here. Board: Jc Tc Qd Dead: equity win tie pots won pots tied Hand 0: 26.666% 23.58% 03.09% 35715 4676.00 { KK } Hand 1: 73.334% 70.25% 03.09% 106403 4676.00 { AA, QQ-TT, AKs, AcQc, KQs, AKo } This range is pretty loose IMO. You played the hand fine OP. [/ QUOTE ] A fairly competent Reg felted AQ against me today on this exact board. He's usually competent anyway. |
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