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Old 11-01-2007, 05:02 AM
Ps3tn0NcYk Ps3tn0NcYk is offline
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It is extremely rare to be put in the situation he has been put in. It could've made him a hero. The players champion who helped take down a corrupt cheating ring.

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If nothing else, this unfortunate turn of events for Absolute Poker, and online poker as a whole, will prove Mr. Seif's myopia.

Instead of emerging as "The Player's Champion, Friend of the Poker Community" he played himself into a situation where his integrity and reputation was justifiably dragged through the mud.

He may very well have sacrificed lucrative endorsement deals from competing sites wanting to associate themselves with "a leader of the online poker community and a bastion of good faith and honesty" for a quick grab at some easy cash.

He is no better at assessing opportunity and risk in life than he was assessing opportunity and risk on "the river".

In a decade from now look out for him looking unfit and disheveled, hawking sun tanning parlors in strip malls around the far Northern regions of Canada, alongside the embalmed corpse of former child-star Gary Coleman.
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Old 11-01-2007, 05:18 AM
Mark Ortega Mark Ortega is offline
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Old 11-01-2007, 10:02 AM
SpaceMonkey13 SpaceMonkey13 is offline
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Instead of emerging as "The Player's Champion, Friend of the Poker Community" he played himself into a situation where his integrity and reputation was justifiably dragged through the mud.

He may very well have sacrificed lucrative endorsement deals from competing sites wanting to associate themselves with "a leader of the online poker community and a bastion of good faith and honesty" for a quick grab at some easy cash.



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OR...most of the people on this site would be ridiculing him right now for walking away from the only endorsement deal he'd ever have a shot at. Seriously, which is more likely?
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Old 11-01-2007, 05:46 PM
carlgraham carlgraham is offline
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OR...most of the people on this site would be ridiculing him right now for walking away from the only endorsement deal he'd ever have a shot at. Seriously, which is more likely?

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Endorsements don't mean &^$## if your name is mud. The longer Mark remains associated with AP, the more tainted he becomes. His defense of the Potripper tourney borders on the insane - once you lose your good name, what do you have left?

I can see end-states where either (1) AP goes down, and drags Mark down with them, or (2) AP cleans house, and jettisons the "spokesperson" tainted by his association with, and defense of, the cheating former management.

It's a pity, really. I realize I'm in the minority, but I actually liked his commentary on the Professional Poker Tour.

Cheers, Carl.
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Old 11-02-2007, 02:16 PM
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OR...most of the people on this site would be ridiculing him right now for walking away from the only endorsement deal he'd ever have a shot at. Seriously, which is more likely?

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Endorsements don't mean &^$## if your name is mud. The longer Mark remains associated with AP, the more tainted he becomes.

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One has to wonder if Mark is hurting AP more than AP is hurting Mark.
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