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11-06-2007, 11:42 PM
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10/20 online, JJ, possibly making a fool of myself on every street.
Hero is SB with Jd Jc.
Nine-handed, folded to hijack, a laggy retard who imagines himself quite good. HJ raises. CO, who I haven't seen much but has weak-tightish TAG stats, threebets. Button, a kinda loose-aggressive preflop, passive postflop, gambool type, calls three cold. I cap, from the blind, against a nitty three-bettor. I'unno. Button folds. Flop (17 SB) - 432, two clubs. I bet, HJ calls, CO raises, button folds, I call, HJ calls. Turn - (11.5 BB) - Js. Holla. I check and immediately think to myself - I should've b/3b. HJ checks, CO checks behind. River - (11.5 BB) Tc - I bet, HJ folds, CO raises, I call. I'm not sure two bets should go in here - a flush is very likely for my opponent. 
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#2
11-07-2007, 12:17 AM
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Re: 10/20 online, JJ, possibly making a fool of myself on every stree
Did you think you were behind on the flop? Why did you just call? Anyway, I think you should 3bet this flop. Given that you didn't the turn is a great card to donk because overpairs will still think they're good. On the river just roll your eyes and call and hope you get shown TT.
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#3
11-07-2007, 06:54 AM
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Re: 10/20 online, JJ, possibly making a fool of myself on every stree
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Hero is SB with Jd Jc. Nine-handed, folded to hijack, a laggy retard who imagines himself quite good. HJ raises. CO, who I haven't seen much but has weak-tightish TAG stats, threebets. Button, a kinda loose-aggressive preflop, passive postflop, gambool type, calls three cold. I cap, from the blind, against a nitty three-bettor. I'unno. Button folds. Flop (17 SB) - 432, two clubs. I bet, HJ calls, CO raises, button folds, I call, HJ calls. Turn - (11.5 BB) - Js. Holla. I check and immediately think to myself - I should've b/3b. HJ checks, CO checks behind. River - (11.5 BB) Tc - I bet, HJ folds, CO raises, I call. I'm not sure two bets should go in here - a flush is very likely for my opponent. [/ QUOTE ] checking that turn is a huge error given the draw-heavy nature of the board. i have no problem with calling the flop, as AKcc-AQcc has you killed, and even any AK-AQ has 10 outs to beat you. but when you call the flop you HAVE to donk a good turn card, and IMO there ain't any better than the jack of spades.
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#4
11-07-2007, 09:40 AM
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Re: 10/20 online, JJ, possibly making a fool of myself on every stree
I like 3-betting the flop here. Then I lead the turn.
Given the way you played it, I lead the turn anyway. Bet / 3bet would be sweet if you can manage it, but allowing this turn to get checked through is sad. When the club hits the river, I'm thinking I could be beat given the way the turn checked through. Check / call is fine. Given your description of CO, you'll see A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] almost every time here.
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#5
11-07-2007, 01:05 PM
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Re: 10/20 online, JJ, possibly making a fool of myself on every stree
i think this is almost a must-3bet on the flop
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#6
11-07-2007, 01:31 PM
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Re: 10/20 online, JJ, possibly making a fool of myself on every street.
You played like a LAGtard all the way throughout this hand.
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#7
11-07-2007, 09:23 PM
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Re: 10/20 online, JJ, possibly making a fool of myself on every stree
Flop... whatever... turn MUST be a bet in my opinion.
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#9
11-08-2007, 10:22 PM
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Re: 10/20 online, JJ, possibly making a fool of myself on every stree
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Online, strategy doesnt matter. If you feel as though you have been rivered, than you are right 100% of the time. [/ QUOTE ] [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]
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#10
11-08-2007, 10:34 PM
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Re: 10/20 online, JJ, possibly making a fool of myself on every stree
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[ QUOTE ] Online, strategy doesnt matter. If you feel as though you have been rivered, than you are right 100% of the time. [/ QUOTE ] [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] [/ QUOTE ] Yeah I did a serious WTF at that one. Anyway. I very very rarely take b/3b lines and just made a stupid, robotic check, realizing right after I took my finger off the button that a b/3b line here was not only superior but mandatory. Stupid fugue states. On the flop I really don't like where I'm at, getting raised by a weakish, nitty-seeming TAG after capping preflop. I doubt this cat is doing that terribly often with TT- and /or naked overcards. Basically I really want to spike a J or running A and K of clubs, with a vast preference for the former. And I do. But I manage to [censored] up the dream, sigh. Rate your relative preference of the following river lines: Check / Fold Check / Call Check / Raise Bet / Fold Bet / Call Bet / 3bet I realize some of the above are just absurd.
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