Preflop Quickie

[calcbandit]

New to NL online, played a bunch of 1/2 and 2/5 NL live, with up to 1200 stacks.

I also don't really play 6 max NL.

PF 6 players everyone has about 250 except UTG, 1/2 blinds.

UTG Raises to $4 (been minraising a lot)
MP Folds
I make it $12 on CO w QQ
Button calls $12
SB folds
BB goes All-in for $260
UTG Calls 90 and is All-In

Whats my play? UTG min-raises and then called all in. BB cold pushed. Does someone always have AA or KK? Or is this a call?

thx

calc

[Squareview]

fold. easy. pretty bad spot for QQ

[Squareview]

obv you would fold 10-10 or JJ here. whats your arguement for calling with queens?

[calcbandit]

FWIW I folded, and didn't even think too hard about it since it seemed obvious I was beat.

BB had AKo and UTG had AJs. I would have won a few hundred, and I was astonished and am posting to find out if I made a terrible unstandard play or just got "unlucky" that I didn't have good enough reads on these players yet.

I was maybe half expecting a ton of "dude you have queens call" posts.

[Squareview]

even if you woulda scoopoed the pot, the results dont cover the leaks in your play. good fold bad result

[paddytokey]

BB's A-K was pretty obvious,but the utg min-raise call-a-shove kind of move would scare the hell out of me and make me muck queens in one second

[6471849653]

If you put the utg on TT+ & AK+ then you make a small profit (usually beats TT, JJ, usually loses to KK, AA and about breaks even vs. the AK+) by calling as you already have money on the pot. The same goes for the BB's all-in. An additional problem is that you must have those edges over both of the players, though it's a three way pot.

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BB's A-K was pretty obvious,but the utg min-raise call-a-shove kind of move would scare the hell out of me and make me muck queens in one second

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The BB's all-in could also be AA or KK (one might see that even more often and in theory one is put to consider about at least reraising with AA/KK when it's not a heads up situation), and the utg "sucker" could have just about a hand like that (like AJs - many can raise somewhat less when they have somewhat less than what feels strong to them. Its good side is that one gets dominated action - with ATs etc. that's no more true from that position while AK could raise more to earn more and make implied hands to pay more).