25NL - set but that line is too strong...

[bingrich]

I guess we call turn, c/f unimproved river. Pretty disgusting spot.

[catoandtonic]

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I guess we call turn, c/f unimproved river. Pretty disgusting spot.

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bing,

We would only have $4 effective stack left and $35.75 pot on river. I dont think calling turn is a viable option.

[bingrich]

yeah that's true... can you see villain having anything other than a flush though? We have odds to draw to boat/quads which is why I said call. But I guess we can't fold river w/ 4 left... alright I've gone full circle to my first post.

Push. Either way we can't fold. Just depends when you want to give him the last 4.

[thoman8r]

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Villains line doesnt just look strong, its the strongest line I could think of. If he does this with a draw often then hes a maniac.

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This guys stats indicate he might be mildly retarded. He probably thinks Ax is good here. This is the easiest shove ever.

[Profish2285]

Its a tiny sample, his stats indicate very little except that he doesnt like to raise pf and is loose.

[catoandtonic]

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yeah that's true... can you see villain having anything other than a flush though? We have odds to draw to boat/quads which is why I said call. But I guess we can't fold river w/ 4 left... alright I've gone full circle to my first post.

Push

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I think villain could have many hands. Higher set, 2 pair, AxXd, and Ax are all possible. We make a very small mistake the times he has a flush. We make a horrendous error the times he has AJ or the like. Set over set is something we just payoff.

[whoshotfirst]

Aren't we putting like 11 into a pot of about 44 if we go allin and get called? This spot looks really bad but he doesn't have to have something alse than a flush very often, and our equity is alredy better than 25%.

[bsball8806]

If he's a 60/0, that means he's never raising preflop. This includes hands like AK with the K of diamonds, and AQ with the queen of diamonds. His 60/0 line, even over a small sample of hands indicates he's not the brightest (10-20 hands?). We aren't getting odds to call here if we put him on a made flush, but honestly I think he could have a ton of hands that we beat. He could have the two aforementioned hands. He could even have AJ and is now raising since the 4th diamond didn't hit the board.

For <100 BB's I don't ever fold this, especially against a donk.

[bsball8806]

I'd be interested in knowing exactly how many hands this 60/0 sample is over..?

[whoshotfirst]

I mean even i he always has the flush our equity is around 33% on the turn, right?