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Old 10-15-2007, 08:32 PM
DanJ. DanJ. is offline
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Default TT oop river set in 3b pot

Villain is pretty decent taglag kinda player, has been 3betting me a fair bit, i have called him a few times and c/f flop, i also 4 bet him earlier and he folded. He has also been check/raising and bluff raising my flop bets, i called his c/r + turn bet with Ahigh about 5 minutes ago on 669K board he checked the 9 river and my hand was good. He had complete air.

So should i just be c/f flop here oop? also what do you think is the best line to take on river? b/f, b/c, c/c, c/r??? i was kind of torn between what i think i should have done.

Effective stacks $1351 5/10nl 5 handed.

1 fold, Hero raises T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] to $35, Villain raises to $115, 2 folds, Hero calls

$243~ Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
Hero checks, Villain bets $175, Hero calls.

$595~ 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
Hero checks, Villain checks.

$595~ T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
Hero??

If i bet say $350 or $400 and he pushes can i fold?
Also how bad is c/c against a villain like this one?
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Old 10-15-2007, 09:12 PM
danjohncochane danjohncochane is offline
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Default Re: TT oop river set in 3b pot

I don't mind the flop call given your read.

I woud bet/call this river. Bet about $400, i think he will try and bluff this river a fair amount of time and also he will call you with alot worse.
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Old 10-15-2007, 09:39 PM
10K-in-Clay 10K-in-Clay is offline
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Default Re: TT oop river set in 3b pot

looks like you gotta bet here and i don't think you can get away from it. chances are he thinks you are a calling station given the history so he probably isn't bluffing a ton. Beacuse of this i don't think we can check the river here. Also if he was really strong he probably woulda just fired another barrell on the turn because he thinks ur a station and the board is draw heavy.

As an aside...what was your turn plan if he bet 400-600?
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Old 10-15-2007, 09:40 PM
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Default Re: TT oop river set in 3b pot

Against our villain, I think you should check/call. He seems a lot more likely to bluff than he is to call you with a weak hand here, and I think you can pretty well rule out most strong hands that you beat.

45 is the only bluff he can put you on, aside from an OOP float.

Bet/call might be even better, but make sure you pick a good size to induce bluffs, and leave him some rope. This is especially true if you think he would usually double barrel his FDs
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Old 10-15-2007, 09:40 PM
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Default Re: TT oop river set in 3b pot

c/f turn was my plan.
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Old 10-15-2007, 09:41 PM
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Default Re: TT oop river set in 3b pot

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chances are he thinks you are a calling station given the history

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mmm, good point

OTOH, board IS getting pretty scary.
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Old 10-15-2007, 10:01 PM
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Default Re: TT oop river set in 3b pot

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I don't mind the flop call given your read.

I woud bet/call this river. Bet about $400, i think he will try and bluff this river a fair amount of time and also he will call you with alot worse.

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is there a good chance that a 1/3 - 2/3 ps bet will induce a bluff more often? or is it to obvious that we are vb?
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Old 10-15-2007, 10:05 PM
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Default Re: TT oop river set in 3b pot

since you never have air/bluff when you lead river, i guess c/c is best or even c/r?
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Old 10-15-2007, 10:21 PM
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Default Re: TT oop river set in 3b pot

am i totally retarded for wanting to c/r river?
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Old 10-15-2007, 10:27 PM
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Default Re: TT oop river set in 3b pot

c/r is (very) good for meta, otherwise i think c/c is best, though previous history ofcourse could make him check behind.
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