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Old 09-03-2007, 11:46 AM
hamnegger hamnegger is offline
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on all streets i get priced into this pot to donk off my chips. was there anything different i could have done?
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t1600 (7 handed) internettexasholdem.com

Hero (t17164)
UTG (t27750)
MP1 (t37322)
MP2 (t113135)
CO (t10451)
Button (t31590)
SB (t32588)
final table 7 handed

Preflop: Hero is BB with T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to t3200</font>, Button calls t3200, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls t1600.

Flop: (t8900) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO bets t2000</font>, Button folds, Hero calls t2000.

Turn: (t12900) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t8000</font>, CO calls t5101 (All-In).
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Old 09-03-2007, 11:53 AM
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Default Re: look at this mess i got priced into

Push PF. Calling off 10% of your stack is gross here.

The rest is pretty standard I guess.

Edit: Depending on reads folding pf isnt terrible either.
I would definitely say Push&gt;Fold&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;Call.
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Old 09-03-2007, 11:55 AM
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Default Re: look at this mess i got priced into

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Push PF. Calling off 10% of your stack is gross here.

The rest is pretty standard I guess.

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shove w 9 10 and no fold equity???????????? anyone else agree with this? crap im only playing bc he min raised and the pot odds are favorable
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Old 09-03-2007, 11:59 AM
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Depends on the Buy-in, but I think youre underestimating how much FE you actually have here.
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Old 09-03-2007, 12:08 PM
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Depends on the Buy-in, but I think youre underestimating how much FE you actually have here.

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CO just raised for 1/3rd of his stack he's not folding to a push, ever.
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Old 09-03-2007, 12:13 PM
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Default Re: look at this mess i got priced into

PF fine flop I open shove give as much pressure to KQ and A5 as possible.
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Old 09-03-2007, 12:16 PM
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the blind is 1600 the raiser has 10k. he only has 7k left. he's folding? its the 4 by 180 but the guy prob wants callers (aq ak aj or big pairs) if he wanted no action he would (im sorry should) just shove. his folding would be well um retarded. this is response to guy who stated i have fe . as for shaundeeb's response shaun i was intending on check folding bc i thought i had almost zero fe on this flop. but when he bet small i said hmmmm he's strong but i can bust him . shaun i just saw you were shoving all in nl HU. that's not gambling with an edge. WHERE'S THE DISCIPLINE SHAUN!
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Old 09-03-2007, 01:05 PM
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Wow, nvm misread CO stack size. I still prefer a fold pf.
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Old 09-03-2007, 02:20 PM
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Default Re: look at this mess i got priced into

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but when he bet small i said hmmmm he's strong but i can bust him .

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so you called? if that's your read, definitely push the flop. you may still have some tiny amount of FE.

that said... by the time the flop comes, the CO will have less than a pot-sized bet left in his stack. i'd rather not face off with someone who probably feels committed to a pretty big pot if I only have T9, even if it is sooooooted. i fold preflop.
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Old 09-03-2007, 05:01 PM
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i think my calls were justified on both streets based on the math. if i don't pick up the flush draw on the turn i would have redone the math to see if im justified to call his turn bet(if there was one) but the additional 7 outs made it impossible to fold at that point and leave all the chips on the tbl.
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