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Old 08-20-2007, 08:26 AM
Laetus Laetus is offline
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Default Push or call and shout down?

Villain is playing 20/18 and I'm playing TAG. We haven't tangled. If the situation had been button/co vs blind then it had been an easy push on flop. But now it isn't such a situation and I'm a bit confused whether call and shout down is better than pushing. In the actual hand I pushed. Whatsoever, which line do you prefer?

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $4 BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

SB ($403.35)
BB ($79.55)
UTG ($497.20)
HERO ($394)
Button ($518.50)

Preflop: Hero is MP with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">HERO raises to $16</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to $60</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, HERO calls $44.

Flop: ($124) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $90</font>, HERO ?
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Old 08-20-2007, 08:30 AM
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Default Re: Push or call and shout down?

Mhe, sorry guys, it actually was a co vs blind situation, hence I like a push... lol. But say it was a utg/mp vs blind situation, which line would you prefer?
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Old 08-20-2007, 09:27 AM
Tumez Tumez is offline
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Default Re: Push or call and shout down?

Without any history, I would call and shut down. With aggressive 3-betting history etc. I would get it in on flop.
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Old 08-20-2007, 10:38 AM
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Default Re: Push or call and shout down?

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Without any history, I would call and shut down. With aggressive 3-betting history etc. I would get it in on flop.

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Both in utg/mp vs blind and co/button vs blind, or just one of them?
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Old 08-20-2007, 12:01 PM
Tumez Tumez is offline
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Default Re: Push or call and shout down?

Hmmm.. This is though. From the co/btn I would get in vs. this guy, even w/o history. From mp/utg... well it depends. If I know he is 3-betting light, then I would get it in, otherwise I could call, and re-evaluate turn, especially if his not the kind of guy who could shove overs in turn.
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