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Old 07-31-2007, 01:00 AM
Casper05 Casper05 is offline
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Default FTP 200, JJ- Qhigh flop 3 way 3bet pot

<font color="blue">UTG is 31/21/2, recent history- raised my c-bet on a JJ2 flop and folded to a smallish 3bet...so he's aggressive, but not stupid. No 3-bet history

BTN is 41/7/4- been running over the table with pot size c-bets every time he raises PF.
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Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $1/$2
5 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $429.75
CO: $64.10
Button: $844.75
Hero: $345.45
BB: $96.60

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is SB with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">UTG raises to $7</font>, CO folds, Button calls, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $30</font>, BB folds, UTG calls, Button calls.

Flop: 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($92, 3 players)
<font color="blue">Hero ?? b/f, c/f, c/c, b/c and why? how much if you are betting?</font>
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Old 07-31-2007, 01:10 AM
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Default Re: FTP 200, JJ- Qhigh flop 3 way 3bet pot

I just bet it. make it $60.
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Old 07-31-2007, 01:13 AM
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Default Re: FTP 200, JJ- Qhigh flop 3 way 3bet pot

I hate betting here so much.

What does it accomplish?

As bilbo-san said in one of his recent posts, you don't want fold equity here.

I probably just c/f
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Old 07-31-2007, 01:15 AM
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Default Re: FTP 200, JJ- Qhigh flop 3 way 3bet pot

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I hate betting here so much.

What does it accomplish?

As bilbo-san said in one of his recent posts, you don't want fold equity here.

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We win the pot against 2 guys that call way too much preflop?
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Old 07-31-2007, 01:18 AM
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Default Re: FTP 200, JJ- Qhigh flop 3 way 3bet pot

- You're betting into two (aggressive) players with a hand that is &lt; top pair.

- When called, how often do you think you're ahead?

- What do you do on a blank turn?
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Old 07-31-2007, 01:25 AM
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Default Re: FTP 200, JJ- Qhigh flop 3 way 3bet pot

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- You're betting into two (aggressive) players with a hand that is &lt; top pair.

- When called, how often do you think you're ahead?

- What do you do on a blank turn?

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So wait, just because we're behind an opponents calling range you advocate a check?

Depends what the turn is, just saying blank turn doesn;t mean much.

Betting takes this pot down a decent amount of the time.
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Old 07-31-2007, 01:26 AM
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Default Re: FTP 200, JJ- Qhigh flop 3 way 3bet pot

Just to be clear, you're advocating turning your hand into a bluff on this flop.
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Old 07-31-2007, 01:27 AM
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Default Re: FTP 200, JJ- Qhigh flop 3 way 3bet pot

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Just to be clear, you're advocating turning your hand into a bluff on this flop.

[/ QUOTE ]This might be the most +EV play vs these 2 opponents. Not sure though..
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Old 07-31-2007, 01:28 AM
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Default Re: FTP 200, JJ- Qhigh flop 3 way 3bet pot

Maybe you're right, i'm going to bed
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Old 07-31-2007, 08:38 AM
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Default Re: FTP 200, JJ- Qhigh flop 3 way 3bet pot

Make a good bet and take it down 40% of the time. 15% of the time you check it down after.
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