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12-01-2007, 12:34 PM
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Re: Pope blames atheism for all the worlds problems.
I dont see much to discuss here, the pope is an idiot.
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12-01-2007, 12:47 PM
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Re: Pope blames atheism for all the worlds problems.
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I dont see much to discuss here, the pope is an idiot. [/ QUOTE ] Pretty harsh. I can only imagine what you would call people who opine after reading an 8 paragraph news article of a 76 page text.
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12-01-2007, 12:49 PM
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Re: Pope blames atheism for all the worlds problems.
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[ QUOTE ] I dont see much to discuss here, the pope is an idiot. [/ QUOTE ] Pretty harsh. I can only imagine what you would call people who opine after reading an 8 paragraph news article of a 76 page text. [/ QUOTE ] Or perhaps have heard a tinsy eeensy bit about this 'pope' entity at some time prior in their lives. luckyme
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12-01-2007, 01:07 PM
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Re: Pope blames atheism for all the worlds problems.
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[ QUOTE ] I dont see much to discuss here, the pope is an idiot. [/ QUOTE ] Pretty harsh. I can only imagine what you would call people who opine after reading an 8 paragraph news article of a 76 page text. [/ QUOTE ] The latest pope is setting the Catholic Church back a hundred years. I'd be embarrassed to have him as leader. His denial of God given truths (the revelations of the natural world, the secular depths of ethics and morality) is particularly noticeable after John Paul II's wisdom in that area.
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12-01-2007, 02:31 PM
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Re: Pope blames atheism for all the worlds problems.
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Pretty harsh. I can only imagine what you would call people who opine after reading an 8 paragraph news article of a 76 page text. [/ QUOTE ] Hey! You're being awfully dumb. How can you criticize valen for one small post, when he has a huge posting history? Have you read all of his posts so you have a basis to talk about him? How about this - when you read one full page of pure idiotic drivel, reading the other 75 pages is stupid. I have better things to do with my time than wade through irrelevant hateful nonsense, and I've seen more than enough of it from this pope to know what his words are worth.
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12-01-2007, 03:15 PM
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Re: Pope blames atheism for all the worlds problems.
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[ QUOTE ] Pretty harsh. I can only imagine what you would call people who opine after reading an 8 paragraph news article of a 76 page text. [/ QUOTE ] Hey! You're being awfully dumb. How can you criticize valen for one small post, when he has a huge posting history? Have you read all of his posts so you have a basis to talk about him? How about this - when you read one full page of pure idiotic drivel, reading the other 75 pages is stupid. I have better things to do with my time than wade through irrelevant hateful nonsense, and I've seen more than enough of it from this pope to know what his words are worth. [/ QUOTE ] I hadn’t realized he was so well published. I was responding to his post which I assumed from the context that it was based on this thread. Had he wished the reader to know that his one sentence referenced his own history as well as the Pope’s, perhaps he should have made that clearer. And if folk want to base their opinion of a 76 page text from an AP news article I have no problem with that. If you (and he) are basing your opinions on prior information that is fine. It does no good, though, to give such opinions as presented.
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12-01-2007, 03:23 PM
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Re: Pope blames atheism for all the worlds problems.
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And if folk want to base their opinion of a 76 page text from an AP news article I have no problem with that. If you (and he) are basing your opinions on prior information that is fine. It does no good, though, to give such opinions as presented. [/ QUOTE ] Just read that Donald Trump has hired a group of girls he calls the Trumpettes. He's such a pompous ass, about as bad as it gets. luckyme
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12-01-2007, 03:28 PM
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Re: Pope blames atheism for all the worlds problems.
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I hadn’t realized he was so well published. I was responding to his post which I assumed from the context that it was based on this thread. Had he wished the reader to know that his one sentence referenced his own history as well as the Pope’s, perhaps he should have made that clearer. And if folk want to base their opinion of a 76 page text from an AP news article I have no problem with that. If you (and he) are basing your opinions on prior information that is fine. It does no good, though, to give such opinions as presented. [/ QUOTE ] You're missing my point. I was being sarcastic. You're perfectly justified in talking about valen's post, because you don't need to know his whole posting history to evaluate what he says. You can discuss each individual post on its own. And if he says something stupid or horrible, then you can call him on it, even if you aren't an expert on his 2p2 history. Similarly, we're discussing the quotes posted in this thread and in the article. We can do so without knowing anything about the Pope. Calling him an idiot based on one blurb might be a little extreme, but we can discuss that blurb all we care to without needing to read the rest, and we can use it as a clue of the Pope's general position on atheism and atheists.
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12-01-2007, 03:37 PM
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Re: Pope blames atheism for all the worlds problems.
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Similarly, we're discussing the quotes posted in this thread and in the article. We can do so without knowing anything about the Pope. Calling him an idiot based on one blurb might be a little extreme, but we can discuss that blurb all we care to without needing to read the rest, and we can use it as a clue of the Pope's general position on atheism and atheists. [/ QUOTE ] And you have no worries that this article wasn’t the least bit titillating? I wish my faith in God was as strong as your faith in journalists. (Good use of sarcasm, btw. Wish I had caught it on my own.)
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