K's on the river

iceit · #1 11-08-2007, 04:55 PM

so the whole intention here with the flop raise is to either take both of my opponents off the hand or get to check it down all the way.

Question is, is this an easy call on the river??

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Preflop: Hero is Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
1 fold, MP raises, Hero 3-bets, 1 fold, BB calls, MP calls.

Flop: (9.50 SB) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
BB bets, MP folds, Hero raises, BB calls.

Turn: (6.75 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks.

River: (6.75 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB Bets, Hero folds.

Final Pot: 6.75 BB

Results in white below: 
BB doesn't show.
Hero has Kc Kh (two pair, aces and kings).
Outcome: Hero wins 6.75 BB.

Bona · #2 11-08-2007, 04:58 PM

Hero folds the river and wins?? [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] I need to start playing on FT I think [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

scpi10 · #3 11-08-2007, 04:59 PM

grunch

I would fold this. Did you change the river action?

tyler_cracker · #4 11-08-2007, 05:07 PM

why did you raise the flop? why did you check the turn? do you have mutliple personality disorder?

neurotiq · #5 11-08-2007, 05:33 PM

Is it really necessary to put results in white when the results don't reveal anything that we already saw in the hand history? [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

The turn check seems inconsistent with your flop raise...

james_stansky22 · #6 11-08-2007, 05:57 PM

I would have bet on the turn. I am a little confused about what happened on the river.

Gib · #7 11-08-2007, 05:59 PM

I like flop raise if u expect him to call down with a J/pp or u think he is drawing. I used to pop the turn with these but a lot of ppl put u on an A & fold so I raise the flop. Also you should be betting the turn for value.

Huggs · #8 11-08-2007, 06:05 PM

grunch

Why check the turn after the flop raise? If you are raising the flop, I would bet/fold the turn.

Stats? Reads? Is the BB capable of bluffing the river?

As played, against an unknown, I likely call; against an established rock or typical passive, I fold.

OziBattler · #9 11-08-2007, 07:02 PM

geez, bet the turn....what happens then should be telling.

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so the whole intention here with the flop raise is to either take both of my opponents off the hand or get to check it down all the way.

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hmmmm, questions for OP:
1. why do you want it checked all the way down?
2. Explicitly, what was your motivation for checking the turn?
3. would u have called if the river wasnt a J?
4. would you have called if the river wasnt a J or a diamond?

the thinking behind the play of this hand is as important (or more important) than what action as actually chosen.

btw this is 5 handed which has certain implications....the way you played your hand says...."Wiffed and now I dont got squat...feel free to bluff me off my hand on the river!" This pot isnt huge but it isnt that small and in an aggro game this can be a riverbluff because of the way YOU played your hand. Generally speaking, if you play to induce a bluff and dont call when the play 'works' then youve made a mistake.

Second Toughest · #10 11-08-2007, 07:42 PM

I think you've induced a bluff. Call.