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Old 08-07-2007, 12:12 AM
DanJ. DanJ. is offline
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Default bluff deep, 2/4nl

am i spewin all over the place?

Villain is 20/16/3, doesnt seem great, he stacked me earlier when we got all in pf my AQ vs AK, shortly after that hand he opened AT i 3b and he 4bet shoved i called and won with AK

fwiw, i dont think i would ever play AA or KK like this, i think id prob check turn and bet river or bet turn and check river(bad?). but i would play Qx, 22 and 55 this way, not sure whether i would double barrel TT here, prob not.

Party Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $2/$4 Blinds - 5 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $851.60
Hero (BB): $900.70
UTG: $436.00
CO: $591.50
BTN: $380.00

Preflop: Hero is dealt 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (5 Players)
3 folds, <font color="red">SB raises to $16.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $50.00</font>, SB calls $34.00

Flop: ($100) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $72.00</font>, SB calls $72.00

Turn: ($244) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $162.00</font>, SB calls $162.00

River: ($568) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB checks, Hero bets $569.00,
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Old 08-07-2007, 12:17 AM
phobos phobos is offline
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Default Re: bluff deep, 2/4nl

this is terrible. if he felts AT pre he could easily have any Q and he's not folding ever

You're basically repping one hand.

edit: you RR pre w 22 and 55 against a guy who is maniacally aggro pre?
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Old 08-07-2007, 12:24 AM
willw9 willw9 is offline
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Default Re: bluff deep, 2/4nl

I think you are reading his hand quite well and he shouldn't be able to stand this type of aggression, but I believe he looks you up due to the implications of the AT hand and the preflop action and how that action makes the very narrow range you are repping even more unlikely.
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Old 08-07-2007, 12:25 AM
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Default Re: bluff deep, 2/4nl

I like PF.

Flop bet is good. Double barreling is good at times here.

I'm still not sure how I feel about this. He has to have a pretty strong hand here to call. If he has good hand reading abilities, I don't really like it, since you really are only representing Qx (AQ, KQ, QJ) and MAYBE TT. I don't think you would raise 22/55 PF so that narrows your range a bit further in my opinion. I like this if he can fold some mid pairs or whatever here since its unlikely he has a very strong hand due to the line he took. I don't think its bad if he can make some folds (which may or may not be likely since he is felting AT PF).
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Old 08-07-2007, 12:53 AM
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Default Re: bluff deep, 2/4nl

Ive done this myself so many times it makes me puke. In a blind war, once a guy who you have recent history with calls the turn here----he has committed all his stack from my experience. In this spot with the recent history they never fold for the river push IMO
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Old 08-07-2007, 01:25 AM
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Default Re: bluff deep, 2/4nl

heh i dont think its very good v a standard 2/4 tag.
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Old 08-07-2007, 01:49 AM
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Default Re: bluff deep, 2/4nl

cool, i actually checked behind but nearly pushed.
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Old 08-07-2007, 01:52 AM
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Default Re: bluff deep, 2/4nl

its blind battle, people dont fold 1 pair in blind battle, so if he has 2pairs, you lose.
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Old 08-07-2007, 01:53 AM
BobboFitos BobboFitos is offline
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Default Re: bluff deep, 2/4nl

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cool, i actually checked behind but nearly pushed.

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small note but i think a smaller river bet (not full pot) works better as a bluff anyway.
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