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Old 11-18-2007, 05:03 PM
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Not sure why ASU is behind Ohio State in any of these.
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Old 11-18-2007, 05:09 PM
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Not sure why ASU is behind Ohio State in any of these.

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more impressive wins. They will pass OSU if they beat USC and AZ
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Old 11-18-2007, 05:20 PM
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not sure i understand the question. is OP asking about any BCS game or the national championship?

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was refering to the national championship
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Old 11-18-2007, 05:27 PM
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AWESOME!!! The rule allowing people to vote for 1-AA teams comes into play, as Northern Iowa gets some love with a 25th place vote! Go Ray Ratto!
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Old 11-18-2007, 05:39 PM
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AWESOME!!! The rule allowing people to vote for 1-AA teams comes into play, as Northern Iowa gets some love with a 25th place vote! Go Ray Ratto!

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They are the #12 team according to the idiotic ELO_CHESS rating system from Sagarin. Maybe they can get a BCS game.
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Old 11-18-2007, 05:50 PM
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Not sure why ASU is behind Ohio State in any of these.

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more impressive wins. They will pass OSU if they beat USC and AZ

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IMO, they should be ahead of tOSU already. Sagarin has tOSU with the #53 SOS and ASU with the #26 SOS.
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Old 11-18-2007, 05:51 PM
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AWESOME!!! The rule allowing people to vote for 1-AA teams comes into play, as Northern Iowa gets some love with a 25th place vote! Go Ray Ratto!

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They are the #12 team according to the idiotic ELO_CHESS rating system from Sagarin. Maybe they can get a BCS game.

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What I like about him having Northern Iowa 12th is that you can't just chalk it up to overrating undefeated teams, because Hawaii is 23rd [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

Though to be fair he does rank Northern Iowa's schedule (#152) as tougher than Hawaii's (#153), so it makes some sense, hehe.
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Old 11-18-2007, 06:30 PM
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Not sure why ASU is behind Ohio State in any of these.

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Arizona State's schedule is better at the bottom, but Ohio State's is better at the top. If you look at the coaches' poll, OSU has a home win over the #20 team and a road win over the #28 team while ASU's best win is a home win over the #39 team. Also, if you look at MOV, OSU has ASU rocked, ranking #2 in the Sagarin predictor compared to #9 for ASU.
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Old 11-18-2007, 06:50 PM
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1) Kansas
2) LSU A&M
3) tOSU
4) Missouri
5) AZ State

CardSharpCook: I can see an argument for "not drinking the LSU Kool-Aid." But putting them below West Virginia tells me you don't know anything about college football.

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QFT. I can't imagine them being above Ohio State, much less LSU.
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Old 11-18-2007, 07:57 PM
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Oops, my bad...those are the teams Kansas has beaten this year. You guys voting them #1 or #2: do you honestly think they are better than the other top teams, or are you just ranking them there because they haven't lost yet, and that's how the rankings work? I'll give them some respect if they somehow beat both Mizzou and Oklahoma, but today, Kansas wouldn't even crack my Top 10.

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OU's schedule isn't a whole lot better than Kansas', and no one has been hammering them on it. Yes, KU has played a weak schedule, but IMO it says a lot that they are the only undefeated team in BCS conferences. Not having them in your top 10 at this point would be a little absurd. You'd have them behind 4 two loss teams? Including OU who lost to a Colorado team that KU beat? (just using the AP to judge as teams you may have above them).

While KU didn't have anyone non-conference, it wasn't their fault that their conference schedule was so weak this year, it just worked out that way that their South games were easy. Beating OSU, KSU, Texas A&M, and Colorado on the road has to count for something. Granted, none of those are elite teams.

I don't think KU is the best team in the country, I think they will lose to MU. Still, I think they have handled the cupcakes by wide margins and being undefeated at this point in this crazy year is impressive.
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