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Old 05-31-2007, 08:52 AM
Stonewalled Stonewalled is offline
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Default NL200: Pair + OESD facing flop psb in multway unraised pot

1/2 Live (casino), 9-handed. Villain seems to be a decent TAG. Doesn't play many pots, although he habitually straddles. Has made pot-sized bets. Has folded to a 3x reraise of mine pre-flop. My image is TAG, on the very aggressive side -- he's seen me showdown nothing but very good hands.

Villain's stack is $300. I have him covered.

Hero has 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] on the button.
Villain straddles, 2 calls, Hero calls, blinds call, Villain checks.

Flop ($24 pot)(6 players): 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
Blinds check, Villain bets $25, 2 folds, Hero ???

Also, what is your plan for the rest of the hand?
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Old 05-31-2007, 09:01 AM
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Default Re: NL200: Pair + OESD facing flop psb in multway unraised pot

I fold here.

You have a very obvious draw when it hits, and with the flush draw out there, 2 of your outs might not even be good.

There is also a small possibility that if you call, one of the blinds will check-raise, and you will have put in $25 for nothing.

Easy fold.
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Old 05-31-2007, 09:06 AM
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Default Re: NL200: Pair + OESD facing flop psb in multway unraised pot

There are a lot of chips to play for so I'd probably call if I thought I could make decent value plays later.
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Old 05-31-2007, 09:11 AM
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Default Re: NL200: Pair + OESD facing flop psb in multway unraised pot

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There are a lot of chips to play for so I'd probably call if I thought I could make decent value plays later.

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Do you really expect to make a lot of money with a 1-card straight?
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Old 05-31-2007, 11:15 AM
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Default Re: NL200: Pair + OESD facing flop psb in multway unraised pot

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I fold here.

You have a very obvious draw when it hits, and with the flush draw out there, 2 of your outs might not even be good.

There is also a small possibility that if you call, one of the blinds will check-raise, and you will have put in $25 for nothing.

Easy fold.

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But, isn't our hand good enough to call here in position and see what happens on the turn? For instance, if Villain bet a weak hand or a draw on the flop, and checks the turn, we win. Doesn't that possibility, combined with the possibility of showing down a winning hand, make at least a flop call worthwhile?
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Old 05-31-2007, 11:17 AM
Albert Moulton Albert Moulton is offline
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Default Re: NL200: Pair + OESD facing flop psb in multway unraised pot

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I fold here.

You have a very obvious draw when it hits, and with the flush draw out there, 2 of your outs might not even be good.

There is also a small possibility that if you call, one of the blinds will check-raise, and you will have put in $25 for nothing.

Easy fold.

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This makes sense to me.

Fold.
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Old 05-31-2007, 11:26 AM
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Default Re: NL200: Pair + OESD facing flop psb in multway unraised pot

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I fold here.

You have a very obvious draw when it hits, and with the flush draw out there, 2 of your outs might not even be good.

There is also a small possibility that if you call, one of the blinds will check-raise, and you will have put in $25 for nothing.

Easy fold.

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But, isn't our hand good enough to call here in position and see what happens on the turn? For instance, if Villain bet a weak hand or a draw on the flop, and checks the turn, we win. Doesn't that possibility, combined with the possibility of showing down a winning hand, make at least a flop call worthwhile?

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Villain potted the flop into 5 people, if you think he is bad enough to do this with a weak hand then you should definatly call as he is therefore probably bad enough to pay off a very obvious straight.
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