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Old 03-15-2006, 12:56 PM
bobby rooney bobby rooney is offline
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Default shortstacked, push with 77?

Stars 180 person SNG 20+2, down to about 1200 due to a severe lack of cards. Table is not overly tight or loose, but reasonably aggressive with most players coming in with a raise. Blinds are 50/100 guy with large stack raises to 400 in MP and another MP large stack just calls, I'm right after with 77. My image is squeaky tight assuming they've been paying attention. Is this an autopush?
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Old 03-15-2006, 01:03 PM
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Default Re: shortstacked, push with 77?

Fold. You have no FE an could be dominated. If you have 2000, then you could push. Even then, you need a read to push with 77.

This is a case of not being able to muck a decent hand that serves you no purpose.
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Old 03-15-2006, 01:13 PM
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Default Re: shortstacked, push with 77?

Fold, you still have 12xbb. You can definitely find a better spot than this, preferably one where you are first in.
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Old 03-15-2006, 02:15 PM
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Default Re: shortstacked, push with 77?

you're probably right, but i guess since most pots were getting raised ahead of me and the blinds were about to go up to 75/150 i felt a bit desperate.
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Old 03-15-2006, 02:16 PM
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Default Re: shortstacked, push with 77?

FIRST IN!!!!
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Old 03-15-2006, 02:37 PM
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Default Re: shortstacked, push with 77?

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you're probably right, but i guess since most pots were getting raised ahead of me and the blinds were about to go up to 75/150 i felt a bit desperate.

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Wait till the blinds go up. Then you can open push with almost anything. You should be looking for a situation as much as a hand. This is not a good situation.
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Old 03-15-2006, 02:37 PM
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Default Re: shortstacked, push with 77?

yep, this situation changes dramatically if youre fta.
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Old 03-15-2006, 01:25 PM
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Default Re: shortstacked, push with 77?

Let's see.

You get all your stuff in there on a small pair with a raise and cold call on your right and 4 or 5 players yet to act on your left.
Or ...
You risk 1/3 of your stack on a small pair with a raise and cold call on your right and 4 or 5 players yet to act on your left.

Hmmm ... sounds sorta contrary to squeaky tight?

IMHO, this is a raise-fold decision, not a call decision. If you call and another player yet to act reraises, then you are pot-comitted with a dog or you make dead money out of 1/3 of your stack.

If you raise then you almost have to push. If you push, the only way this situation is worthwhile, is if you also get a couple of the late position players to join in, and also the original raiser and cold caller.

In this kind of situation, you typically only win IF you make a set AND your set holds up.

That said, I'm probably dropping these sevens like they are hot rocks.
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Old 03-15-2006, 01:28 PM
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Default Re: shortstacked, push with 77?

HOH2 states that low pocket pairs lose their value in playing for set value when you are in the orange zone.
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Old 03-15-2006, 01:37 PM
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HOH2 states that low pocket pairs lose their value in playing for set value when you are in the orange zone.

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Yet another reason to fold and find a better spot.
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Carl
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