$200 PL Flush Draw + Top Pair

[Phil153]

Villain is a solid tightish player, doesn't raise much preflop, haven't seen her get out of line.

Party Poker
Pot Limit Omaha Ring game
Blinds: $1/$2
10 players
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Stack sizes:
UTG: $174.50
UTG+1: $264.88
UTG+2: $84.72
Hero: $437.50
MP2: $437.70
MP3: $197
CO: $48.38
Button: $228.14
SB: $194
BB: $431.97

Pre-flop: (10 players) Hero is MP1 with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
UTG calls, 2 folds, Hero calls, <font color="#cc0000">MP2 raises to $10</font>, 2 folds, Button calls, 2 folds, UTG calls, Hero calls.

Flop: 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($43, 4 players)
UTG checks, Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">MP2 bets $40.85</font>, 2 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $163.4</font>

Good, bad, ugly?

[Cooker]

I think this is a reasonable play against the right player. If villain can fold a low draw without anything for high, this is probably right. You still are getting called by AA2, but AA3,AA4, and maybe even AA5 could find a fold too.

I would usually fold this preflop for the raise (I probably wouldn't even limp it) and usually just give up the flop, but if you have made a C/R with a big hand that got shown at this table then go for it. I find people tend not to respect check raises in this game which is why I prefer that I would have used it a few times.

[januarymute]

This is definitely correct play. Pair + nut flush draw is very powerful, check some 2dimes scenarios and you'll see what I mean. Throw in some fallback low, and you're in great shape. BTW, here's an example of a situation where a significant amount of the time you're going to get scooped by a very good hand and have second thoughts about your strategy (Jorge, I'm talking about players like you). Just don't worry about it, many chips have been lost playing hands like this correctly when Villain's hand happens to fall at the bad end of his range.

Example:

***** Hand History for Game 3852419972 *****
$2000 PL Omaha Hi-Lo - Thursday, March 30, 11:38:17 ET 2006
Table Table 95179 (No DP) (Real Money)
Seat 1 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: billhay ( $1208.62 )
Seat 2: tkoJoe ( $1073.79 )
Seat 5: tribequest ( $2157 )
Seat 7: a123letsgo ( $1135.48 )
Seat 9: HakAllah ( $2000 )
Seat 10: c4bangs4 ( $3451.36 )
Seat 3: saphire11 ( $2107.04 )
Seat 6: forthstooge ( $2944 )
Seat 4: grlsgrlsgrls ( $1907 )
Seat 8: VICTORIA1 ( $435.72 )
tkoJoe posts small blind [$10].
saphire11 posts big blind [$20].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HakAllah [ 7c As 8s 6d ]
grlsgrlsgrls folds.
tribequest folds.
forthstooge folds.
a123letsgo folds.
VICTORIA1 folds.
HakAllah calls [$20].
c4bangs4 raises [$90].
billhay folds.
tkoJoe folds.
saphire11 folds.
HakAllah calls [$70].
** Dealing Flop ** [ Ac, 2s, Js ]
HakAllah checks.
c4bangs4 bets [$109.05].
HakAllah raises [$534.15].
c4bangs4 raises [$1700.40].
HakAllah is all-In.
c4bangs4 calls [$100.55].
** Dealing Turn ** [ 5h ]
** Dealing River ** [ Qd ]
c4bangs4 shows [ Jh, 3d, 4c, Ad ] a straight, ace to five.
c4bangs4 shows 5,4,3,2,A for low.
HakAllah doesn't show [ 7c, As, 8s, 6d ] a pair of aces.
HakAllah doesn't show 7,6,5,2,A for low.
c4bangs4 wins $2013.50 from the main pot with a straight, ace to five.
c4bangs4 wins Lo ($2013.50) from the main pot with 5,4,3,2,A.
grlsgrlsgrls has left the table.

[Xcalibur]

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Wrong forum.. I think the responses was geared towards hi/lo.

[Phil153]

The play itself seems ok with 100BB stacks as there's $80 in the pot if they fold, and I don't figure to be worse than a 40-45% dog against hands that call.

But has anyone taken the depth of the stacks into account? (We have $430 each).

sword guy...the converter doesn't work properly. It is hi/lo.

[wiseheart]

I really got to know if villain only makes this
move with AA2 or AA5. Is she that tight or will
she raise a naked a2? If she just has an a2 here
then this is very much +EV but if she has a234
or AA2 then you are behind. So very read dependent.
So, I defently like the play if you put her on a2
or a24 or something like that.

[grjr]

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Party Poker
Pot Limit Omaha Ring game
Blinds: $1/$2
10 players


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Wrong forum.. I think the responses was geared towards hi/lo.

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Don't be fooled by that name. The converter screws it up. This was almost certainly Hi/Lo.