Cheating at a poker room?

[ShaneP]

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Cheating at the Belagio Poker Room

A must move 5-10 no limit game is called on table 31 at 4pm. Tommy, a 20’ish asian sits in seat 1, an asian girl Sue sits beside him in seat 2. Whenever Tommy would get ready to fold, he would hold his cards ½ inch off the felt to signal to Sue to fold also. When he was ready to play, he would place a chip on his card which was the signal that he would raise and she would ALWAYS call.


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I might have missed something so I'll just try to be nice and suggest you rewrite that part...it doesn't make a whole lot of sense (an the raise later)

the sarcastic part to illustrate the point: I would think tommy's signal that he was raising was probably pretty obvious to everyone--him putting his chips in probably tipped it off. And his signal that he was going to get ready to fold? Does the 2 seat really need a signal he's about to fold? Wouldn't the actual fold give it away anyway?

not sarcastic anymore: when describing things like this, you probably want to keep arguments like that out, since that's what people might key on. If you saw this when Tommy was in the 4 seat and his partner was in the 2 seat, then you've got something. And the fact that they wanted to sit at the same table doesnt' really say too much (at least in and of itself).

Now, I wouldn't be surprised if what you're saying is true, but a lot of the evidence you provided doesn't make a lot of sense. Did the guy you spoke with see the signals in other situations...And yes, them being in the same pots all the time does seem really fishy...

Shane

[Halfpoint]

helluva 1st post buddy... welcome to 2p2 hehe

[pococurante]

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Does the 2 seat really need a signal he's about to fold? Wouldn't the actual fold give it away anyway?

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Sue might be first to act.

[Taso]

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Does the 2 seat really need a signal he's about to fold? Wouldn't the actual fold give it away anyway?

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Sue might be first to act.

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Only when HE (whatever his name was, the cheater) is the big blind though. I think, because he was in seat 1, Sue was in seat 2. Ergo...

Also gotta wonder why he needs to let her know that he is raising, before he raises. One would think the actual raise would tip her off.

[David Troyer]

Tommy and Sue where sitting next to each other on Nov 7 in the 5-10 n/l game. The person I was talking to and watching the various signals has seen them working together as a team many times before. The hand that i gave an example where the two isolate a person then tommy signals a reraise after the flop is just one example of their collusion. There is no questions that they where working together.
dave

[Howard Burroughs]

Hi Dave,

The times I have played 2-5 & 10-20 NL at Bellagio, I have not noticed cheating (but I'm not an expert). I mostly play lower limits (played Hooters, Red Rock & Orleans tonight). I know these out of the way places don't have the big games you are looking for but if you think Bellagio is so bad.....

Why not just play at Wynn, Red Rock, etc?


You have been knocking 'em dead in the $5-10 with your SPR's, why let that fun couple put you on tilt?



They may just be a fun couple wanting to give you their money. Relax and take a deep breathe, Bro.


Best Wishes

Howard