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Old 05-16-2007, 05:15 PM
kidpokeher kidpokeher is offline
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Default Poker Stars: VPP per hand - post-legislation edition

A while back, JaredL started a great thread here that listed how you can calculate the VPP's you receive on average on a per-hand basis. I'd like to compile another list so we can see the impact on VPP's since the UIGEA legislation passed. If you post your VPP's/hand for the limit(s) you play, I'll compile the list.

Here is how to do it:

Using Pokertracker,
1) Open the ring game window and select the "Preferences" tab.
2) Filter so you only have a single given limit (and full or 6 max)
3) In the box marked "Since a Date" enter 01/01/07 (this is important!)
4) Now that your data is filtered, select the "Game Notes" tab
5) In the upper right corner it says "Only show hands with at least [ ] rake." Enter 2.00 if you play 6 max and 3 if you play full, then click filter and get all. Remember the number of games displayed.
6) If you play limit 1/2 or lower or NL 1/2 blinds or lower, enter .40 into the filter and redo it, otherwise enter 1.00. Again click filter and get all.
7) Add the number of games displayed to the number you got before and divide by the total number of games.

When posting results, please post your game/limit/VPP's per hand/sample size (number of games). Don't forget to indicate whether you're referring to limit or nolimit and 6max or full ring.


The link to the old list is here.
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Old 05-16-2007, 05:52 PM
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Default Re: Poker Stars: VPP per hand - post-legislation edition

i'm confused as to how the UIGEA would have any effect on the rate of VPP's/hand earned.
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Old 05-16-2007, 06:00 PM
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Default Re: Poker Stars: VPP per hand - post-legislation edition

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i'm confused as to how the UIGEA would have any effect on the rate of VPP's/hand earned.

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Less fish, tighter games, less VPP/hand?
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Old 05-16-2007, 06:05 PM
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Default Re: Poker Stars: VPP per hand - post-legislation edition

NL 400 full ring used to be .65 vpp per hand for me, now it's .61 vpp....slight difference.

(over 50K hands)
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Old 05-16-2007, 06:30 PM
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Default Re: Poker Stars: VPP per hand - post-legislation edition

I did some recent calcs for 50-200nl by just opening up a bunhc of tables and look at pot sizes at got a small sample of ~250 hands for each level.

50nl: .23 vpp/hand
100nl: .36 vpp/hand
200nl: .56 vpp/hand
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Old 05-16-2007, 07:05 PM
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Default Re: Poker Stars: VPP per hand - post-legislation edition

$5/10 NL FR (190K hands) : 0.9226 VPP/hand

$3/6 NL FR (210K hands) : 0.7336 VPP/hand
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Old 05-16-2007, 07:34 PM
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Default Re: Poker Stars: VPP per hand - post-legislation edition

NL 100 6-max 121K hands .33 VPP/Hand
NL 100 Full Ring 92K hands .36 VPP/Hand

I believe these are both down signifacantly compared to before the ban. They both used to be around .42 VPP/Hand

However I would say about 80% of my play is done before 5 pm Eastern. I normally play during non peak hours 8am -2pm Eastern which could explain the difference. I lost all my PT data from 2006
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Old 05-16-2007, 08:54 PM
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Default Re: Poker Stars: VPP per hand - post-legislation edition

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A while back, JaredL started a great thread here that listed how you can calculate the VPP's you receive on average on a per-hand basis. I'd like to compile another list so we can see the impact on VPP's since the UIGEA legislation passed.

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wasn't Jared's thread started AFTER the UIGEA to begin with?
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Old 05-16-2007, 09:01 PM
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Default Re: Poker Stars: VPP per hand - post-legislation edition

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wasn't Jared's thread started AFTER the UIGEA to begin with?


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Yes it was but...

I think it's good to have another thread beacause the numbers have changed even since then.

I was getting .41-.43 at 100NL (mostly day games) and now am getting .36. This is at full ring.
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Old 05-16-2007, 09:35 PM
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Default Re: Poker Stars: VPP per hand - post-legislation edition

Currently, I am getting about twice as many VPP's as i was a few months ago. Same stakes.
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