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Old 11-22-2007, 06:20 PM
The_Bowler The_Bowler is offline
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Default $200 Max 1/2 No-Limit Strategy Question...

Thanks in advance for your thoughts on this matter....

I am a winning no-limit small buy on-line player
$10 Max, $25 max, $50 max online player 50,000+ hands 15.38 BB/ 100 hands.

Venturing into the live games here in Detroit, playing the 1/2 $200 max game

Asking for some input...
The $200 max game usually has either massive limping, 50-60%, unraised pots... OR the bring in is usually $15-$20...
The game traditionally never has an opening raise for less than $10 (5x BB)
and often the "standard" opening raise is $15 (7.5x BB). So the play is like limp or raise $15 into a $1 small and $2 BB... Seems like a gross raise.

My initial assessment is to "tighten" my starting requirements, and re-raise or open with this "standard ($12-15). Or Getting in on the limp festival when in late position and try to flop a killer.

The game seems loose when all the limping is going on, and all pre-flop when the raises are $15 - $20...

How would you all approach this kind of game?
Thanks again for your thoughts...
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Old 11-22-2007, 06:27 PM
Dr_Doctr Dr_Doctr is offline
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Default Re: $200 Max 1/2 No-Limit Strategy Question...

If you are winning 15PTBBs over 50000+ hands no one here is going to tell you anything you don't already know - or do you mean 15BBs i.e. 7.5PTBBs. If so then you're still an excellent micro player, should have moved up long ago, and should know how to exploit the fishy live game.
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Old 11-22-2007, 06:31 PM
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Default Re: $200 Max 1/2 No-Limit Strategy Question...

Your live opponents are generally going to play as bad as $10NL save a few exceptions. Limp with with your suited and unsuited connectors, small pairs and other high cards. Raise your good hands the standard open of 12-15. This is mainly for value as you'll receive plenty of action from weaker playing more than willing to give you action with hands like K4s. Most of your profit in a game like this is just going to come from relentless value-betting. Against most of your opponents trying tricky plays can be -EV as it will be lost on them. Overall play a solid game and get your money good and you'll do fine.
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Old 11-22-2007, 07:00 PM
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Default Re: $200 Max 1/2 No-Limit Strategy Question...

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If you are winning 15PTBBs over 50000+ hands no one here is going to tell you anything you don't already know - or do you mean 15BBs i.e. 7.5PTBBs. If so then you're still an excellent micro player, should have moved up long ago, and should know how to exploit the fishy live game.

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Please enlighten me ... PTBBs?

Using poker tracker...
My options are BB/100 hands average
or BB/Hour

What stat is PTBBs ?
And how to compute?

Thanks for the info...

The_Bowler
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Old 11-22-2007, 07:58 PM
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Default Re: $200 Max 1/2 No-Limit Strategy Question...

Under the preferences tab, you'll see the option "Treat 'BB' as for NL/PL As Big Blind Amt."

"By default, Poker Tracker treats the BB amount for NL and PL games as 2 times the big blind amount for the table. So, if you are playing at a NL table where the BB is $1, then the calculations that PT uses for BB/100 hands and BB/hour totals would use $2 as the bet bet amount. Some users have suggested that they would prefer that Poker Tracker just use the big bet amount by itself and not multiply it by 2 when doing these calculations..."
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Old 11-22-2007, 08:32 PM
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Default Re: $200 Max 1/2 No-Limit Strategy Question...

ok just wanna get this straight... when someone posts stats on 2+2 is it standard to have that BB box in the preferences tab checked or unchecked?
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Old 11-22-2007, 08:37 PM
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Default Re: $200 Max 1/2 No-Limit Strategy Question...

Unchecked
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Old 11-22-2007, 08:40 PM
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Default Re: $200 Max 1/2 No-Limit Strategy Question...

damn [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]
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Old 11-22-2007, 11:01 PM
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Default Re: $200 Max 1/2 No-Limit Strategy Question...

Bowler
I have found that live gmes like this no one considers the blind and a standard raise being 3 X the BB
I would play loose preflop and tight post flop
Test the water and see if a $20 or $25 raise gets any respect an make that the standard raise and think of the blinds being $2/$5
Generally live play at this level is alot worse than online t this level
If you are limping into lots of pots most of the table will think its the norm and wont really notice how loose you are
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Old 11-23-2007, 12:05 AM
The_Bowler The_Bowler is offline
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Default Re: $200 Max 1/2 No-Limit Strategy Question...

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Under the preferences tab, you'll see the option "Treat 'BB' as for NL/PL As Big Blind Amt."

"By default, Poker Tracker treats the BB amount for NL and PL games as 2 times the big blind amount for the table. So, if you are playing at a NL table where the BB is $1, then the calculations that PT uses for BB/100 hands and BB/hour totals would use $2 as the bet bet amount. Some users have suggested that they would prefer that Poker Tracker just use the big bet amount by itself and not multiply it by 2 when doing these calculations..."

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[img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] Well - 15.38BB/100 (Unchecked)
Equals 30.76/100 (When the box is checked)
Either way, I am doing ok, and want to move up...
The $200 max $1/2 Live game looks easier live than the same game online - hence my forays into live poker.

The_Bowler
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