The Worst Strategy You've Overheard at a Table

[steelshooter]

"95 suited man,I can't fold suited connectors man!"

"I put you on 2 pair when you went all in, but I knew I was getting my flush."

So you called every bet I made with bottom pair? "Yup" "I knew I would maybe catch another trey by the river."

Always remember a closed mouth catches no foot.

[xxx]

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Everyone where I work thinks the "computer hand" Q7o, was proven to be the best hand in hold'em by the use of computers. I don't bother to tell them it was shown that at a full table, if everyone played to the end everytime, Q7 is the median hand.

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I had heard that it was heads-up, and that the original simulation had undercounted the strength of Q7, and that correcting the program error gave a median strength of around J7o. So I ran some pokerstove simulations:

Q7o=51.7 vs. random heads up
Q7o= 8.00% vs. 9 random hands (much worse than average)
J7o= 49.7% vs. random hand

simulation results below:
equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 51.766% 49.90% 01.86% 1046780178 39042143.50 { Qd7h }
Hand 1: 48.234% 46.37% 01.86% 972707935 39042143.50 { random }

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 08.002% 06.78% 01.22% 1649831 298061.25 { Qd7h }
Hand 1: 10.223% 09.15% 01.08% 2226755 261890.67 { random }
Hand 2: 10.221% 09.15% 01.08% 2226192 261945.25 { random }
Hand 3: 10.217% 09.14% 01.07% 2226139 261106.83 { random }
Hand 4: 10.221% 09.15% 01.08% 2226311 261700.67 { random }
Hand 5: 10.225% 09.15% 01.08% 2227176 262023.92 { random }
Hand 6: 10.217% 09.15% 01.07% 2226314 260894.50 { random }
Hand 7: 10.232% 09.16% 01.07% 2229490 261399.08 { random }
Hand 8: 10.218% 09.14% 01.08% 2225574 261912.42 { random }
Hand 9: 10.222% 09.15% 01.07% 2226902 261546.92 { random }



equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 49.682% 47.73% 01.96% 1001090143 41024384.00 { Jd7h }
Hand 1: 50.318% 48.36% 01.96% 1014433489 41024384.00 { random }

[pshabi]

"I see every flop."

[Biggle10]

After reading this thread I can clearly see that the human race is doomed.

[Dima2000123]

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"I see every flop."

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I've said that once, and I actually did do it that time. I was lucky enough to sit on a table where virtually every pre-flop was unraised, and where a bunch of people where way too aggressive with too weak of a hand after the flop. At that table even 72o had implied odds. Had it not been for two brutal bad beats early on, I would've walked away with more than 3 buyins from that table after 6 hours, instead of just 1.

[cwes]

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I've heard Bill Fillmaff say that KJo is the most profitable hand.

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fyp

[7ontheline]

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Leveling is part of what makes live fun.

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- After a 42o SB hand wins a big pot with 2 pr the dealer says, "That just proves that $4/$8 is all luck. There is no skill what-so-ever in limit poker." One pretty sharp guy next to the dealer laughed and said he believed there was definitely skill involved and starting hand selection would be the first place to start. The dealer concedes and says "Well whatever, I guess there might be some skill involved but no more than 5% at most. Trust me I deal, so I see how much luck is involved. No limit....well that's skill."

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Dealer isn't terribly off the mark here. I actually think NL is ~5% skill for each hand. I have virtually no Limit experience, but from what I've read about the strategy and the variance, it's definitely under 5%.


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No, you're wrong, because NASA supercomputers have precisely calculated the amount of skill in limit poker as 5.429%. Please stop spreading misinformation, TYVM.

[MrBrightside]

I heard this gem from a guy. table is typical 1/2 NL Loose/passive.. limp, limp, raise to 12 from MP, call, call. I'm on the Button with TJ offsuit. I call, LDO, because I know at least one of the two limpers will call. sure enough, they both call. we're 5 to the flop for 12 each. flop AKQ 2 to a flush draw. Original raiser (who has a couple hundo still behind) fires $25 (obv. giving any draws odds to call, moron) and I raise to $100 to price out the obv. draws behind, he goes all in, I call, turn and river brick and he shows KK for trips.

Now, this wasn't the guy's fault (although the flop bet was horribly too small, but I'd already made a hand anyway). Then the guy starts wearing me out about the call. I mutter something about the button or something (no way am I educating about pot and implimed odds). and then he lays down the ulimate 1/2 smacktalk: "THEY WEREN'T EVEN SUITED".

like there is this HUGE difference between playing JTo and JTs. It's like what, 2%, equity against a random?

[Xamot]

people who short stack with $20 at a 1-2 Limit game

[atrainpsu]

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" 26 suited man,I can't fold suited connectors man!"


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Donk after he raises to $10 with aces and stacks off $350 on a 6-4-3 flop: How can you call a raise preflop with a 6-3?

Actually most players would say this...