Following Instinct w/ Folds. Getting Advanced or Overzealous? - Page 2

Zeldark · #1 07-10-2007, 07:58 AM

This is back to the "Is it pyschic or MUBS?" sort of discussion.

I used to spew a lot more than I do now. When I know I'm beat I slow down now. I have the experience to recognize when to slow down, but I believe I should be able to make laydowns. I believe saving Big Bets here and there will go a long way in the long run, but maybe I'm just getting overzealous? I have provided some examples of hands I thought should be folded but something inside me smelt something fishy and wanted to see the showdown anyways. Some of the hands are played better than others.

While logically evidence against my arguement for advanced folding, to throw off results oriented advice I have thrown some winning hands into the mix any number of them could be winners/losers.

Some of these may be more LDO than others. Not all of these are my finest hour, but the poorly played hands just add to throwing off results oriented advice. Will you pull the plug on any of these?

I'm especially interested in the advice of any and all veterans/professionals/grinders that worked their way up for this one.

Hand 1:

SB is Unknown but has a 4.5BB chipstack after the blind goes in.
Button is 20.87/8.25/4.16 after 412 hands.

Limit Hold'em (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Preflop: Hero is CO with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
5 folds, Hero raises, Button 3-bets, SB caps, 1 fold, Hero calls, Button calls.

Flop: (13 SB) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB bets, Hero calls, Button calls.

Turn: (8 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB bets, Hero calls, Button folds.

River: (10 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB bets, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 12 BB

Hand 2:

Villain is 23.81/4.76/1.17 After 21 Hands

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Preflop: Hero is UTG+2 with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
2 folds, Hero raises, MP1 calls, 5 folds, BB calls.

Flop: (6.50 SB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets, MP1 raises, BB folds, Hero 3-bets, MP1 calls.

Turn: (6.25 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets, MP1 raises, Hero calls.

River: (10.25 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, MP1 bets, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 12.25 BB

Hand 3:

Villain is 28.57/21.43/2.1 after 70 hands

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Preflop: Hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. MP3 posts a blind of $0.50.
4 folds, MP2 raises, MP3 (poster) calls, 2 folds, Hero 3-bets, 1 fold, MP2 caps, MP3 folds, Hero calls.

Flop: (11 SB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets, MP2 raises, Hero 3-bets, MP2 caps, Hero calls.

Turn: (9.50 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets, MP2 raises, Hero calls.

River: (13.50 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, MP2 bets, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 15.50 BB

Hand 4:

UTG is 40/18.26/2.42 after 115 hands.
UTG+2 is 24.85/11.52/1.27 after 165 hands.

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Preflop: Hero is CO with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG raises, 1 fold, UTG+2 3-bets, 3 folds, Hero caps, 3 folds, UTG calls, UTG+2 calls.

Flop: (13.50 SB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
UTG checks, UTG+2 checks, Hero bets, UTG calls, UTG+2 calls.

Turn: (8.25 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
UTG checks, UTG+2 checks, Hero bets, UTG raises, UTG+2 calls, Hero calls.

River: (14.25 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
UTG bets, UTG+2 folds, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 16.25 BB

Hand 5:

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Preflop: Hero is BB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
3 folds, MP2 calls, 3 folds, SB completes, Hero raises, MP2 calls, SB calls.

Flop: (6 SB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB bets, Hero raises, MP2 folds, SB 3-bets, Hero calls.

Turn: (6 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, SB raises, Hero calls.

River: (10 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB bets, Hero raises, SB 3-bets, Hero calls.

Yes raise here is lol bad. I know [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

Final Pot: 16 BB