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Old 06-21-2007, 04:29 AM
Zeldark Zeldark is offline
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Default Let\'s Practice PF (Expanded PF Range and Analysis)

I've realized that getting used to multitabling (again) and polishing up PF should be my highest poker priorities. Since I can't really ask multitabling techniques, here is some PF content. I guess this classifies best as a sanity check.

Since PF changes like this are compounded on all streets, comments on all streets welcome. Yeah, the action is on the low side.

Reads: My PT hadn't kicked in yet but my impression of him at the time was that he was on the loose side.

PokerStars Low Stakes Let's Practice Multitabling Hold'em (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP2 calls, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, BB calls.

Flop: (6.40 SB) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP2 calls, BB folds.

Turn: (4.20 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP2 calls.

River: (6.20 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP2 calls.

Final Pot: 8.20 BB
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Old 06-21-2007, 04:33 AM
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Default Re: Let\'s Practice PF (Expanded PF Range and Analysis)

i would not play qjs utg +1, but i am a noob. Rather i would play it from mp2 and better position.
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Old 06-21-2007, 06:21 AM
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Default Re: Let\'s Practice PF (Expanded PF Range and Analysis)

I know why I'd raise this UTG, why did you?
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Old 06-21-2007, 06:36 AM
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Default Re: Let\'s Practice PF (Expanded PF Range and Analysis)

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I know why I'd raise this UTG+1, why did you?

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<ul type="square">[*]It's a freakin group THREE hand![*]It wasn't raised before me [*]I am comfortable with my postflop play vs these opponents. [*]It seemed like a raise or fold hand.[*]I didn't want to fold it .[*]It looked pretty and connected and color coordinated.[*]These are low stakes so I can comfortably practice very major changes to my game and not don't flip out practicing at the normal level.[*]I wanted more bets in my stack.[/list]
Goot?
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Old 06-21-2007, 06:38 AM
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let's talk table conditions. what was going on?
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Old 06-21-2007, 06:47 AM
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Default Re: Let\'s Practice PF (Expanded PF Range and Analysis)

This is 24 hands into the session.
Some people are multitabling.
No one has particularly impressed or lost much respect to stand out for the stakes.
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Old 06-21-2007, 07:42 AM
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Default Re: Let\'s Practice PF (Expanded PF Range and Analysis)

I have haven't been at many tables at .25/.50 and below where I wouldn't play this from EP. Raise it, don't raise it but I want to see a flop with it.

As far as multitabling goes, practicing the mechanics on free money or .01/.02 tables is the way to start. At first it seems like whak-a-mole but after a while it will slow down. I prefer having a 1600x1200 monitor so no overlappy but the majority of my 4 or 5 tabling was done with lots of overlap and letting Party pop up the table I had to make a decision on.
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Old 06-21-2007, 08:00 AM
Seven_of_Cups Seven_of_Cups is offline
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Default Re: Let\'s Practice PF (Expanded PF Range and Analysis)

I don't see any problem raising pf. Staying aggressive through the hand was right in my book. Just out of curiosity what did your opponent have? I put him on either a diamond draw or KJ.
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Old 06-21-2007, 09:05 AM
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the looser/more passive the table the more inclined I am to limp this from early position. I say this because these folks will often coldcall solid hands that beat us. KJ, AJ, and the like are very common. I'm all for playing QJs from EP overall, though.
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Old 06-21-2007, 09:26 AM
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I limp with QJs from EP, because

- I want customers who pay my flush or straight off

- If I raise, only dominating hands (AQ, AJ, KQ) will coldcall, the ones I'm behind against (QQ+, AK) will 3bang me

-I don't want this HU, b/c I have no SD value and no TP potential due to lacking hi-card strength

IMO QJs is the example of a hand that plays best multiway.
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