More BB Mayhem (69o Standard?)

Zeldark · #1 07-31-2007, 11:30 PM

UTG+2 is 13.2/6.6/1.2 after 334 hands and has much respect.
MP1 is 42.1/7.9/0.6 at a less respectable 38 hands.
MP2 is 12.1/7.4/3.9 with 231 hands.
OTB is 27.2/2.9/1.6 with 279 hands.

Play it different?

Limit Hold'em (10 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
2 folds, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, 2 folds, Button calls, 1 fold, Hero checks.

Flop: (5.50 SB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (5 players)
Hero checks, UTG+2 bets, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, Button calls, Hero calls.

Turn: (5.25 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (5 players)
Hero checks, UTG+2 bets, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, Button folds, Hero raises, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls, MP2 calls.

River: (13.25 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4 players)
Hero bets, UTG+2 raises, MP1 3-bets, MP2 folds, Hero folds..

sharpie · #2 07-31-2007, 11:36 PM

I think you're not getting the correct odds currently since a flush draw could be out, a better 6, or you could hit and get outdrawn, but with implied odds you can justify alot of close decisions. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] Turn and river look good.

00Snitch · #3 07-31-2007, 11:48 PM

I'm with sharpie. Getting 9.5:1, it's pretty touch-and-go.

It's worth noting that, as well as the flush draw and straight draw and your terrible position, the Ace on the board also hurts your hand because, if you make your hand, you can be outdrawn by the straight, the flush or Aces up, if someone doesn't/hasn't already made Aces up (A9/A5/A6) when you hit your two-pair.

Obviously, you would much rather have A6 on something like a 6K5 board, or change the Ace on the flop to a King and I feel happier.

Xhad · #4 07-31-2007, 11:52 PM

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I think you're not getting the correct odds currently since a flush draw could be out, a better 6, or you could hit and get outdrawn

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Also, the 9 fills an OESD for 78. Still, with relative position closing the action I think it's a marginal call.

Harv72b · #5 08-01-2007, 02:04 AM

I make the flop call pretty much always, primarily because we're closing the action while getting those 9.5:1 odds. If there were more players left to act behind us I'd be more likely to give it up there.

I like the turn c/r--even if UTG+2 was betting a draw on the flop, someone will bet there.

Good lead on the river, good disciplined fold when it's raised & reraised by two pretty passive opponents.

nh [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Shillx · #6 08-01-2007, 02:42 AM

UTG+2 has AT so it doesn't even matter what the other guy has. Good fold.

boss · #7 08-01-2007, 05:42 AM

The turn raise seem a little debatable to me. We just hit two pair, but the board is very coordinated. If we are ahead there could collectively be up to 20 or more outs that could beat us. If we are behind we have 4 outs and I would hate to get 3-bet. Our edge at this stage must be considered marginal.

Isn’t a turn call followed by a river check/raise in case of a safe card a better line?

Hielko · #8 08-01-2007, 07:38 AM

No certainly not. Draws aren't paying a river bet or raise.