Two Plus Two Newer Archives  

Go Back   Two Plus Two Newer Archives > Tournament Poker > Tournament Circuit/WSOP
FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #11  
Old 10-17-2007, 07:35 PM
dsalt dsalt is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 226
Default Re: Ty Stewart\'s \"Blockbuster\" idea for 2008 WSOP

what if a player dies/life insurance problems
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 10-18-2007, 06:36 PM
ZPinhead ZPinhead is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: SeattlePoker.net
Posts: 351
Default Re: Ty Stewart\'s \"Blockbuster\" idea for 2008 WSOP

Except that more monkeying around with large tournaments (hasn't ESPN done enough of this with the WSOP?) for the 'betterment of poker' actually has nothing to do with making poker better. I has to do with making more $$$ on television shows.

...reality-programming phenomenon on the order of Survivor, American Idol, or Cake Decorating with the Stars...

So...turning the WSOP into something like 'reality-programming' is a good thing for who? Certainly not the players in the tournament!

Unlike other professional sports, poker does not require an audience to exist. Sure it needs exposure to 'recruit' new players into the pool, but poker shows and recognized 'TV' poker players (not to dismiss their skills, it's just that you have to have a cast to have a show) only really make money for the producers of the shows and to a smaller degree the 'TV' players themselves.
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 10-19-2007, 01:43 AM
dw2006 dw2006 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 476
Default Re: Ty Stewart\'s \"Blockbuster\" idea for 2008 WSOP

This is so dumb, people would have months to actually learn how to play once at the final table.
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 10-19-2007, 04:45 AM
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default Post deleted by Mat Sklansky

Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 10-19-2007, 03:01 PM
Zetack Zetack is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 3,043
Default Update on the possible plan


More details on the plan:

[ QUOTE ]
And I understand why the idea of a live final-table broadcast is controversial. Televising poker live adds a significant amount of complexity to the proceedings. Ty mentioned to me that he's not in favor of separating fans from the action - the live webcasts of some final tables from the 2007 WSOP was a new experience and one from which Harrah's learned many things - and therefore would sequester the entire room. Players, fans, and attending media would all be squestered and communication devices would be removed. (I'm not sure why media would want to be present if they couldn't communicate, especially because they'd be seeing LESS than if they watched it on TV, but I understand how everyone has to be locked down.)
.
Another complexity involves broadcast time. Stewart told me in an e-mail that he does "not believe that ESPN will dedicate more than a three hour window to the stunt" or "that a mainstream audience will have interest watching for a period longer than that anyway." This might lead someone to conclude that they'd need to jack up the blinds and antes super-high to force the action into a watchable time period.
.
He assured me that Harrah's had no such thing in mind. Everyone in the process is trying to develop a formula of starting play before the broadcast hits the air, "flash editing" to catch up, and going live for the final stages in a reasonable broadcast window. Stewart didn't come out and say, "We'll never under any circumstances alter the blind structure for TV" - though maybe he'll read this and tell me just that - but it sounds like the goal is to arrange the broadcast to fit around the natural Main Event endgame, and not the other way around.



[/ QUOTE ]

Link to update
Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old 10-20-2007, 12:39 AM
betgo betgo is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Posts: 15,430
Default Re: Update on the possible plan

It might work. I don't like the 2 month delay idea though. Then all the amateurs would quit there jobs and play poker tournaments full time, read every book, and hire coaches at $300/hour. If they flash edit the early final table, they could flash edit the rest or show it later.

If the idea is to show the last 3 hours or so, they would have to accept some variance, in that it could take anywhere in the 1-6 hour range, although the endpoint would be less likely. Presumably they would add commericial breaks.
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old 10-26-2007, 03:33 PM
pacecar86 pacecar86 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: re-education camp
Posts: 327
Default Re: Ty Stewart\'s \"Blockbuster\" idea for 2008 WSOP

the 2 hour ESPN HD 2007 ME FT was quite enough for me, thank you very much......I think this is final proof that Harrah's/WSOP Marketing needs massive help
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old 11-01-2007, 08:22 PM
umistboy umistboy is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Crying in the mini\'s....
Posts: 377
Default Re: Ty Stewart\'s \"Blockbuster\" idea for 2008 WSOP

Great - so the FT guys have months to go away and analyze eachothers play and make changes to their own.

Ridiculous
Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old 11-03-2007, 08:18 AM
tribet tribet is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 89
Default Re: Ty Stewart\'s \"Blockbuster\" idea for 2008 WSOP

What if a player was unable to play because of something like being in the hospital etc, would they wait for him to recover and then play or would he be able to let another player of his choice play?

What about players who fly half way around the world to play? They have to return home then come back?

Would Harrahs pay interest on the money they are holding when they pay up? And how about royalties to the players for this crap.
Reply With Quote
  #20  
Old 11-04-2007, 02:11 AM
AngusThermopyle AngusThermopyle is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Riding Binky toward Ankh-Morpork
Posts: 4,366
Default Re: Ty Stewart\'s \"Blockbuster\" idea for 2008 WSOP

[ QUOTE ]


Ty Stewart, Director of Sponsorship and Marketing

[/ QUOTE ]

Does he know a flush beats a straight?
Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 07:30 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.