Poker Stars: VPP per hand - post-legislation edition

[TheProdigy]

yea someone plz tell me how to tell my rakeback % using the $1500 bonuses at 2/4nl

[PartysOver]

$1500 bonuses = $0.015/fpp

figure out how much rake you pay for how many fpp's

[PartysOver]

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50NL 6max pokerstars
.235VPP per hand
sample size 24k hands

ok someone help me figure out what im calculating wrong. I don't play at full tilt so i'm not familiar with how rake back works but isn't it MGR * .27 = rakeback ?

if i do this i get $190 * .27 = $51.30 rakeback

over these 24k hands at pokerstars i get 24000*.235 = 5640VPPs at 1.5 cents is $84.60
$84.60 / $190 = 44% rakeback, and this is before i add in VIP extra FPP bonus.... if im silver stars this doubles making it 88% rakeback...platinum is 2.5 FPP per VPP so that would be 110% rakeback..

this can't be right what am i doing wrong??

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you pulled the .27 out of thin air. this number is generally used when figuring out rakeback for ftp (which gives 27%)

do total fpp value/mgr = equivelent rakeback %

[spoonitnow]

100nl: 0.380 VPP/hand over 178066 hands, all played in the past 2-3 months

[demon102]

correct me if Im wrong in finding this out, I counted up how many fpps =f I got , I multiplied that by 1.5 cents and then divided that by the mrg =m to get the rakeback %. Is this how u do that?

f*$0.015/m= rakeback

[1p0kerboy]

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correct me if Im wrong in finding this out, I counted up how many fpps =f I got , I multiplied that by 1.5 cents and then divided that by the mrg =m to get the rakeback %. Is this how u do that?

f*$0.015/m= rakeback

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You meant mgr.

Yes, this is a decent way of doing so. But you're probably not factoring in everything that VIPs on PokerStars receive. For instance, there are weekly and monthly freerolls. Also, if you use the points in the fpp store or play tournaments with them, your .015 value is likely to be a little bit higher. The .015 figure comes from the value of the bonuses. And if you're playing quite a bit, you should also factor in the milestone bonuses at the 200k,300k,400k,500k,and/or 750k marks.

To determine your mgr in pokertracker, go to the summary tab. Divide total rake by players to find out the average amount of rake paid per player. This is the dealt method of calculating rakeback, which is most commonly used throughout the industry.

[1p0kerboy]

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yea someone plz tell me how to tell my rakeback % using the $1500 bonuses at 2/4nl

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Tell me your average rake paid per hand and your VPP accrual rate a that stake.

[demon102]

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correct me if Im wrong in finding this out, I counted up how many fpps =f I got , I multiplied that by 1.5 cents and then divided that by the mrg =m to get the rakeback %. Is this how u do that?

f*$0.015/m= rakeback

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You meant mgr.

Yes, this is a decent way of doing so. But you're probably not factoring in everything that VIPs on PokerStars receive. For instance, there are weekly and monthly freerolls. Also, if you use the points in the fpp store or play tournaments with them, your .015 value is likely to be a little bit higher. The .015 figure comes from the value of the bonuses. And if you're playing quite a bit, you should also factor in the milestone bonuses at the 200k,300k,400k,500k,and/or 750k marks.

To determine your mgr in pokertracker, go to the summary tab. Divide total rake by players to find out the average amount of rake paid per player. This is the dealt method of calculating rakeback, which is most commonly used throughout the industry.

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ya I just wanted to get the base rakeback % and then after that I can add what level vip Im at and other perks. tx for checking on that [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]

[Borst]

I just hit Goldstar and it took me 34,700 hands of $25NL fullring to hit the 4000vpp so that is .115 vpp per hand.

Anyone have any recent $50NL full ring numbers to post? I'm looking to move up by the end of the year and start my drive to supernova next year. I've seen older numbers posted from .19 - .26 vpp at $50NL but that's a fairly big range. I normally play during 7-11pm eastern during the week and whenever on weekends.

[keikiwai]

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Game Notes

click "Get All"

and then there is a column called MGR

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not on mine [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

columns are:

game, site, date, level, table, flop, flop, flop, turn, riv, kill, pot, rake, bbjpc, net, bb, winner, note

version 2.16.03d

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Weird. I'm also running 2.16.03d.



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finally got it, just had to expand it