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Old 11-27-2007, 01:02 AM
Jorge10 Jorge10 is offline
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Default Re: $5/10 NL hand

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Noone said Push. I like pushing in this spot...

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I did. I talked about check raising and betting out. Pushing is wrong here because 4 people are in the pot and if anyone calls you, then you are in bad shape.

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pokenum -o8 2s qc 9s ac - ah 3h 4d 8d -- qs 5s 2c
Omaha Hi/Low 8-or-better: 820 enumerated boards containing Qs 5s 2c
cards scoop HIwin HIlos HItie LOwin LOlos LOtie EV
9s 2s Ac Qc 231 655 162 3 0 106 9 0.544
8d 4d Ah 3h 162 162 655 3 580 0 9 0.456

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pokenum -o8 2s qc 9s ac - as 3s 7h 8h -- qs 5s 2c
Omaha Hi/Low 8-or-better: 820 enumerated boards containing Qs 5s 2c
cards scoop HIwin HIlos HItie LOwin LOlos LOtie EV
9s 2s Ac Qc 183 501 311 8 0 82 33 0.430
As 3s 8h 7h 302 311 501 8 556 0 33 0.570

http://twodimes.net/h/?z=3959899
pokenum -o8 2s qc 9s ac - as 3s 4h 8h -- qs 5s 2c
Omaha Hi/Low 8-or-better: 820 enumerated boards containing Qs 5s 2c
cards scoop HIwin HIlos HItie LOwin LOlos LOtie EV
9s 2s Ac Qc 183 368 447 5 0 106 9 0.340
As 3s 8h 4h 444 447 368 5 580 0 9 0.660

http://twodimes.net/h/?z=3959902
pokenum -o8 2s qc 9s ac - qh qd jd td -- qs 5s 2c
Omaha Hi/Low 8-or-better: 820 enumerated boards containing Qs 5s 2c
cards scoop HIwin HIlos HItie LOwin LOlos LOtie EV
9s 2s Ac Qc 303 303 517 0 160 0 0 0.413
Qd Jd Td Qh 445 517 303 0 0 0 0 0.587

http://twodimes.net/h/?z=3959903
pokenum -o8 2s qc 9s ac - qh qd 3d 7d -- qs 5s 2c
Omaha Hi/Low 8-or-better: 820 enumerated boards containing Qs 5s 2c
cards scoop HIwin HIlos HItie LOwin LOlos LOtie EV
9s 2s Ac Qc 148 300 520 0 97 32 0 0.295
Qd 7d 3d Qh 484 520 300 0 407 88 0 0.705

http://twodimes.net/h/?z=3959905
pokenum -o8 2s qc 9s ac - 5h 5d 3d 7d -- qs 5s 2c
Omaha Hi/Low 8-or-better: 820 enumerated boards containing Qs 5s 2c
cards scoop HIwin HIlos HItie LOwin LOlos LOtie EV
9s 2s Ac Qc 198 380 440 0 97 32 0 0.374
7d 5d 3d 5h 404 440 380 0 407 88 0 0.626

http://twodimes.net/h/?z=3959908
pokenum -o8 2s qc 9s ac - 5h qd 3d 7d -- qs 5s 2c
Omaha Hi/Low 8-or-better: 820 enumerated boards containing Qs 5s 2c
cards scoop HIwin HIlos HItie LOwin LOlos LOtie EV
9s 2s Ac Qc 248 516 304 0 97 32 0 0.488
Qd 7d 3d 5h 268 304 516 0 407 88 0 0.512

http://twodimes.net/h/?z=3959911
pokenum -o8 2s qc 9s ac - 7h ah 3c 7d -- qs 5s 2c
Omaha Hi/Low 8-or-better: 820 enumerated boards containing Qs 5s 2c
cards scoop HIwin HIlos HItie LOwin LOlos LOtie EV
9s 2s Ac Qc 228 720 94 6 0 84 30 0.589
3c 7d Ah 7h 92 94 720 6 559 0 30 0.411

http://twodimes.net/h/?z=3959916
pokenum -o8 2s qc 9s ac - as ah 3s 9c -- qs 5s 2c
Omaha Hi/Low 8-or-better: 820 enumerated boards containing Qs 5s 2c
cards scoop HIwin HIlos HItie LOwin LOlos LOtie EV
9s 2s Ac Qc 169 397 415 8 0 96 48 0.362
As 3s 9c Ah 403 415 397 8 472 0 48 0.638

http://twodimes.net/h/?z=3959920
pokenum -o8 2s qc 9s ac - as ah ts 9c -- qs 5s 2c
Omaha Hi/Low 8-or-better: 820 enumerated boards containing Qs 5s 2c
cards scoop HIwin HIlos HItie LOwin LOlos LOtie EV
9s 2s Ac Qc 443 443 377 0 160 0 0 0.583
As Ts 9c Ah 307 377 443 0 0 0 0 0.417

http://twodimes.net/h/?z=3959924
pokenum -o8 2s qc 9s ac - as ah 3h 9c -- qs 5s 2c
Omaha Hi/Low 8-or-better: 820 enumerated boards containing Qs 5s 2c
cards scoop HIwin HIlos HItie LOwin LOlos LOtie EV
9s 2s Ac Qc 232 637 178 5 0 96 48 0.546
As 9c Ah 3h 178 178 637 5 472 0 48 0.454

I put in most of the range that will call your check raise. I also put in the hand that villan ended up having. He is not ahead of much. I think he needed to get really lucky to not be crushed by someone in the hand.
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Old 11-27-2007, 02:34 AM
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Default Re: $5/10 NL hand

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Assani - I probably peel here for that price on THAT flop too. your turn bet is a tough bet, but i probably do the same if it's heads-up.

are you taking notes after hands like these?

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As I briefly stated to you in PM, I'm trying to get better with note-taking. What in particular about this hand would you note? His preflop raise with that hand? His strange bet with the low draw when he was last to act? His call on the turn? And perhaps most importantly how would that impact your play against him in the future?

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Old 11-27-2007, 02:35 AM
Assani Fisher Assani Fisher is offline
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Default Re: $5/10 NL hand

Guys keep the thoughts coming. FWIW I did never consider pushing. My options in my head were to call and push a non-scary turn or to fold. I'm curious how people would've played the turn if an 8 fell.

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Old 11-27-2007, 07:33 PM
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Default Re: $5/10 NL hand

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Guys keep the thoughts coming. FWIW I did never consider pushing. My options in my head were to call and push a non-scary turn or to fold. I'm curious how people would've played the turn if an 8 fell.

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You have to fold if an 8 falls on the turn. There is no other play because the guy would have shoved and you would be getting freerolled for most of the money.
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