Best LHE in the USA???

[pig4bill]

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All said and done, I dont see how any Bay Area LHE can make it onto a list in terms of beatable games.

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If you can't beat the GC and Bay101 20-40 games, you should probably move down in limits. I play the 20-40 regularly at both casinos, and even ABC poker will make you a winning player.

Never played the 40-80.

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Geez, how many 2+2ers are regulars in the 20/40 and 40/80 at Bay101/GC? You, Rowboat, Coelacanth, etc. . . .

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No kidding. With all these 2+2ers talking about how easily they beat these games, maybe people can see why an ordinary schmuck thinks they're tough. We may have 3 of these guys at every table!

[pig4bill]

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The best players on this site would disagree with you. Allow me to introduce you to Dave Frome, aka J.A. Sucker who plays regularly at Bay 101. No doubt he is in the top 5% of players on 2+2, is co-writing a book right now on how to beat tough short handed high limit games with Ray Z, and doesn't seem to have a problem with the games at Bay 101 at all.

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not to hijack the thread but i cant wait to read this book. if you or any of the other regulars think im wrong about bay 101, im inclined to suspect youre right.

at best im a strong-average player and even then only in a small spectrum of game types (good at loose-full games, terrible at hyper aggro short handed, etc), so i can only speak for my own experiences and what i hear over the wire obv.

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It's not very meaningful when excellent players tell you such-and-such a game is easy to beat, because almost EVERY game is easy for them to beat. I'm more interested in what the 80th or 90th percentile players have to say.

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ahem....

you can teach a blind monkey to beat any game at b101 up to 40-80 (probably higher, but I don't play that high)

regards,

80th percentile

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So now this blind monkey doesn't even have to be drunk? Well, I'm half blind and like bananas, does that count?

BTW, I hardly consider you to be in the 80th percentile.

[steamboatin]

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Regarding teams or crews, I too am able to speak/understand a language in common use in the cardrooms, though I'm ethnically dissimilar to those who speak the language natively.

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This absolutely has to be the most politically correct statement, I have ever read in my life.

[haakee]

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The only 60/120 I know of is at Bellagio and Commerce

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Casino Arizona has a regular 60-120 game.

[haakee]

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you can teach a blind monkey to beat any game at b101 up to 40-80 (probably higher, but I don't play that high)

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Said blind monkey would have to practice excellent game selection to beat the 100-200. It's notably tougher than the 40-80 most of the time.

Everything Sucker has said in this thread has been spot on.

[haakee]

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btw, I've noticed that the CD language courses for Vietnamese that I've seen for sale are all for Northern Vietnamese, not Saigon Vietnamese. I'm not sure I could learn much from a pre-recorded course on such a difficult language, but could one understand poker table talk of Saigon Vietnamese if he understood Hanoi Vietnamese?

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Yes, you'd be able to understand southern Vietnamese. It's got more slang and pronunciation differences but with some practice you would know the differences. Vietnamese is not a particularly easy language to learn, however, but learning numbers and card ranks will go a long way in a San Jose poker game.

[bsnone]

I've been fortunate to play in a lot of different rooms - going to college in Boston meant having my teeth cut at the 'woods starting out at 2/4 and working up to 10/20, living in MN meant spending my summers at 6/12-15/30 at CP and now I live in AZ and spent my first day at CAZ today...

Ive taken the vegas and AC trips as well - never played in LA but am starting to think about a poker road trip out there...

I love Cantebury - its been 2 plus years since I've played there but as far as dealers/floor and quality of game (esp 8/16) I would choose that room over anywhere else I have played. CAZ is great and I even enjoy the dump of a card room (seriously, it is in a trailer attached to an old crappy smoke filled casino) that I frequent here in Tucson (once again, great 8/16 game)

Good thread - I found the players at CP all in all to be better then the players at foxwoods - though this might be because the room at foxwoods was so much larger hence more fish.

The one thing I miss about the east coast is the stud games... there is another player who frequents my regular card room who is interested in starting a list for a 10/20 stud game - the floor wouldnt take us seriously and didnt even put a list up on the board.

[PorkchopDJG]

BSNONE Thanks for that insight from experience in MN, AZ, East coast, and Vegas.

Here is the compiled top 10 "Best Mid LHE List" based on overall responses in this thread.

1)LA
2)Northern CA
3)Arizona
4)Minnesota
5)Atlantic City
6)Foxwoods
7)Vegas
8)Washington State-Seattle Area
9)Turning Stone
10)Tunica