2 Ax hands from FT 180 20$ sg

LFC · #1 04-07-2006, 06:29 AM

Hey!
Need your opinion, how would U play it.
guys seems solid, I didnt make many stealing raises earlier

hand: #1
I'm ss, initial pot 5100
push or fold?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t3000 (4 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

UTG (t53865)
Button (t113526)
SB(Hero) (t17314)
BB (t85295)

Preflop:Hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
UTG raises to t12000, 1 fold, SB ??? 

Hand #2
Call or Fold? Should I push earlier or jsut call ?
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BB (t26801)
UTG (t120526)
Button (Hero)(t41578)
SB (t81095)

Preflop:Hero is Button with 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
1 fold, Button raises to t12000, 1 fold, raises to t26601, Button ???

bmxreed36 · #2 04-07-2006, 06:45 AM

Hand 1--Fold and then push the next chance you get.

Hand 2--You're getting 3 to 1 pot odds, easy call. You might consider just pushing on the button and not having to worry about calling a reraise since you'll be priced in anyways.

tubasteve · #3 04-07-2006, 06:45 AM

Hand 1 I probably fold, but I suck at restealing. Hand 2, you're priced in unless you are against AA.

LFC · #4 04-07-2006, 06:57 AM

#1 fold?
we're down to 4 players, my M is about 3,5 and effective M is much lower. I know he raises but is it better to fold and hope I would get something good in next 2 round ?

tubasteve · #5 04-07-2006, 07:04 AM

No, pushing with low M mainly relies on fold equity. He is incorrect to call your push here no matter what his cards are. Pushing here does not cause him to make a mistake, and you are a dog to his raising range.

No matter what two cards you get next hand, pushing is +EV. Just wait; you don't necessarily need something "good".

LFC · #6 04-07-2006, 07:38 AM

ok, thanks, that's what I asked for.
pushing nexh hand is more +EV than pushing that A4off

#2 easy call of course, but would U play it diffrent? push instead of raise ?

tubasteve · #7 04-07-2006, 08:20 AM

Yeah, I'd push

NoahSD · #8 04-07-2006, 08:21 AM

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ok, thanks, that's what I asked for.
pushing nexh hand is more +EV than pushing that A4off

#2 easy call of course, but would U play it diffrent? push instead of raise ?

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This is really close and depends on table dynamics. I doubt there's ever a situation where one play's much worse than the other.

JupiterUWG · #9 04-07-2006, 09:27 AM

#1 I'd fold and try and get it as the initial raiser ASAP
#2 Call quickly, his range is wide enough where you have to call with the odds youre getting

seke2 · #10 04-07-2006, 10:25 AM

1) fold and all-in the next time i am first to act with any 2 cards
2) you're obligated to call with pot odds there. i personally just push that when i act initially preflop but i play hardcore pushbot style when i'm around 10xBB late in tournaments.