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Old 10-13-2007, 06:28 PM
ncboiler ncboiler is offline
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Default 50NL Straight/Flush Draw Facing all-In

No specific read on villain other than stats of 40/11/4. Easy call???

Poker Stars, $0.50/$1 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 9 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

Hero (BTN): $117
SB: $95
BB: $184.95
UTG: $103.95
UTG+1: $187.05
UTG+2: $151.60
MP1: $179.75
MP2: $97.50
CO: $29

Pre-Flop: Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BTN)
2 folds, UTG+2 calls $1, 2 folds, CO calls $1, <font color="red">Hero raises to $6</font>, SB folds, BB calls $5, 2 folds

Flop: ($14.50) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $10</font>, <font color="red">BB raises to $178.95 and is All-In</font>, Hero...

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Old 10-13-2007, 06:47 PM
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Default Re: Straight/Flush Draw Facing all-In

its probably something between close call, and close fold

i'd lean towards call, as I think he's morelikely to have some retarded hand, than the ones that have you in trouble(Ax[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], TT, 44, KK)
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Old 10-13-2007, 07:15 PM
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Default Re: Straight/Flush Draw Facing all-In

I think this is an easy fold tbh.

Multiway drawing hands are a hand you want to be pushing with rather than calling with.

It's a hand you want to maximise your fold equity in a pot your 50/50 with the majority of the time increasing your ev when you push villian off the pot on the flop.

Your pretty much breaking even/slightly losing ev if villian has a set, 2 pair or AK and if villian has something like AKs your really screwed, "although this villian would probably 3bet pf with AKs".

Best case scenario is villian has a hand like KQ-KJ where your probably slight favorite or a pair other than a king, which is unlikely.
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Old 10-13-2007, 07:20 PM
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Default Re: Straight/Flush Draw Facing all-In

I think alot of the decision comes down to how many hands those stats represent.

44/11/4 over 1000 hands i'd probably call, 44/11/4 over 50 hands i'd lean towards folding .
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Old 10-13-2007, 07:36 PM
Johnes Benjamin Johnes Benjamin is offline
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Default Re: Straight/Flush Draw Facing all-In

My first thought was fold, b/c I put his range at basically Axd; K weak kicker or stronger occasionally
I think counting in the possibilities of freerolling against another QJ or being against a smaller flush (not very often probably, but still) I think you can go ahead and call.

I doubt it is, but if this is a villain you play against fairly often, I would say it is a super easy call. Having donks think they are getting it in good and you just get lucky against them is very +EV. Negreanu theorem
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Old 10-13-2007, 07:36 PM
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Default Re: Straight/Flush Draw Facing all-In

Against KT/44/TT/KK you'll make 1.64 with your call. Add in some Kdxd hands and you have a fold but throw in a made hand like KQ and it's an easier call. It's a very marginal and +ev call against his range.
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